Tracks which were left out of the Box Set

[Pogues fan]

Ordered my copy of the pogues box set from Tower for $65.01 before the price went to $103.99. You can be sure I'm happy as hell. So what other tracks were left off (due to legal issues or otherwise) besides the pogues/The Chieftains tracks? Any chance a box set with any left over tracks will be released later? Sorry am just in a Pogues frame of mind

[Grievous Angel]

Any chance a box set with any left over tracks will be released later? Sorry am just in a Pogues frame of mind

I think Phil said those were the only two tracks from the original tracklist that weren't cleared. Though the idea of a box set commemorating all the songs that got left off a previous box set is intriguing.

[firehazard]

... the idea of a box set commemorating all the songs that got left off a previous box set is intriguing.

And then there'll be the box set containing the songs that didn't get into the box set containing the songs that got left off the original box set. Looking forward to that one...

[Kilmichael]

... the idea of a box set commemorating all the songs that got left off a previous box set is intriguing.

And then there'll be the box set containing the songs that didn't get into the box set containing the songs that got left off the original box set. Looking forward to that one...

You mean the Ultimate Platinum Rest of the Very Best Box Set?!

[philipchevron]

... the idea of a box set commemorating all the songs that got left off a previous box set is intriguing.

And then there'll be the box set containing the songs that didn't get into the box set containing the songs that got left off the original box set. Looking forward to that one...

I think I can safely say there will be no more box sets now. None in my lifetime anyway. None that require my involvement.

[Spindelphia]

... the idea of a box set commemorating all the songs that got left off a previous box set is intriguing.

And then there'll be the box set containing the songs that didn't get into the box set containing the songs that got left off the original box set. Looking forward to that one...

I think I can safely say there will be no more box sets now. None in my lifetime anyway. None that require my involvement.

So, I take that as "Only new material from here on out."

[LSMelo]

Mr. Chevron.

All over the years a lot of people - me included - were getting for trading/buying a lot of bootlegs (audio and video). For instance, besides the official video, I have 3 shows that were broadcasted, but the image quality is not so good excepting a german broadcast that is quit good. Other example is the Streams of Whiskey bootleg that I know you don't aprove it. But is very good considering the official choices that are just 1 CD included in Ultimate Collection.

Please understand this: I like to collect bootlegs because in my opinion is in live shows thate can really see the power of a band. Specially Pogues bootlegs because you are my no. 1 band. But I can also say that I have twice your CDs: the "first editions" and the "second editions" that has extra songs. So you see that besides the pirate stuff I have all your official records. Just miss the Box because in Portugal I didn't find it yet.

But The Box proves that you can make some of live CDs (excelent sound quality and where we can listen people singing too - something I love in bootlegs) and live videos. Someone sent me the Barrowlands mp3 of the Box. Really, reaaly good. I remember that you just have one official CD and DVD.

So I ask: Mr C., can we expect some live material in audio or video? That would be really great.

Regards, and still waiting for you in Portugal. And, why not, in Azores?

LSMelo

[philipchevron]

Mr. Chevron.

All over the years a lot of people - me included - were getting for trading/buying a lot of bootlegs (audio and video). For instance, besides the official video, I have 3 shows that were broadcasted, but the image quality is not so good excepting a german broadcast that is quit good. Other example is the Streams of Whiskey bootleg that I know you don't aprove it. But is very good considering the official choices that are just 1 CD included in Ultimate Collection.

Please understand this: I like to collect bootlegs because in my opinion is in live shows thate can really see the power of a band. Specially Pogues bootlegs because you are my no. 1 band. But I can also say that I have twice your CDs: the "first editions" and the "second editions" that has extra songs. So you see that besides the pirate stuff I have all your official records. Just miss the Box because in Portugal I didn't find it yet.

But The Box proves that you can make some of live CDs (excelent sound quality and where we can listen people singing too - something I love in bootlegs) and live videos. Someone sent me the Barrowlands mp3 of the Box. Really, reaaly good. I remember that you just have one official CD and DVD.

So I ask: Mr C., can we expect some live material in audio or video? That would be really great.

Regards, and still waiting for you in Portugal. And, why not, in Azores?

LSMelo

I am hoping to see some movement on the DVD front this week. As before, I shall be putting out an appeal for sources. If anyone has anything they think is worth seeing that we may not have, please get in touch.

[Mark_Wafc]

Mr. Chevron.

All over the years a lot of people - me included - were getting for trading/buying a lot of bootlegs (audio and video). For instance, besides the official video, I have 3 shows that were broadcasted, but the image quality is not so good excepting a german broadcast that is quit good. Other example is the Streams of Whiskey bootleg that I know you don't aprove it. But is very good considering the official choices that are just 1 CD included in Ultimate Collection.

Please understand this: I like to collect bootlegs because in my opinion is in live shows thate can really see the power of a band. Specially Pogues bootlegs because you are my no. 1 band. But I can also say that I have twice your CDs: the "first editions" and the "second editions" that has extra songs. So you see that besides the pirate stuff I have all your official records. Just miss the Box because in Portugal I didn't find it yet.

But The Box proves that you can make some of live CDs (excelent sound quality and where we can listen people singing too - something I love in bootlegs) and live videos. Someone sent me the Barrowlands mp3 of the Box. Really, reaaly good. I remember that you just have one official CD and DVD.

So I ask: Mr C., can we expect some live material in audio or video? That would be really great.

Regards, and still waiting for you in Portugal. And, why not, in Azores?

LSMelo

I am hoping to see some movement on the DVD front this week. As before, I shall be putting out an appeal for sources. If anyone has anything they think is worth seeing that we may not have, please get in touch.

This sounds very promising indeed. Fingers crossed.

[RICHB]

Mr. Chevron.

All over the years a lot of people - me included - were getting for trading/buying a lot of bootlegs (audio and video). For instance, besides the official video, I have 3 shows that were broadcasted, but the image quality is not so good excepting a german broadcast that is quit good. Other example is the Streams of Whiskey bootleg that I know you don't aprove it. But is very good considering the official choices that are just 1 CD included in Ultimate Collection.

Please understand this: I like to collect bootlegs because in my opinion is in live shows thate can really see the power of a band. Specially Pogues bootlegs because you are my no. 1 band. But I can also say that I have twice your CDs: the "first editions" and the "second editions" that has extra songs. So you see that besides the pirate stuff I have all your official records. Just miss the Box because in Portugal I didn't find it yet.

But The Box proves that you can make some of live CDs (excelent sound quality and where we can listen people singing too - something I love in bootlegs) and live videos. Someone sent me the Barrowlands mp3 of the Box. Really, reaaly good. I remember that you just have one official CD and DVD.

So I ask: Mr C., can we expect some live material in audio or video? That would be really great.

Regards, and still waiting for you in Portugal. And, why not, in Azores?

LSMelo

I am hoping to see some movement on the DVD front this week. As before, I shall be putting out an appeal for sources. If anyone has anything they think is worth seeing that we may not have, please get in touch.

Sorry to be an impatient arse but any word on this yet Mr C?

[meowhouse]

As I said in a previous post right here in this thread, before it was moved for some incomprehensible reason:

I for one would have like to hear all this background talk! Although I'm sure Mr. C., being in the band, would find it all very boring but I imagine that most fans would really enjoy hearing it. Maybe you can leave it all in on the next set??

God forbid I mention anything else, or this post will be moved too.

[philipchevron]

As I said in a previous post right here in this thread, before it was moved for some incomprehensible reason:

I for one would have like to hear all this background talk! Although I'm sure Mr. C., being in the band, would find it all very boring but I imagine that most fans would really enjoy hearing it. Maybe you can leave it all in on the next set??

God forbid I mention anything else, or this post will be moved too.

When we recorded Waiting For Herb, the producer, Michael Brook, kept the tapes running at all times while we were recording basic backing tracks, in case they missed some "moment of magic" in the control room. I didn't actually know this, or had forgotten, until miles and miles of this stuff was spat out from the Warner Brothers archive when myself and Erik James went to raid the tape stores in April or May 2007.

After Nick Robbins did the digital transfers, I sat down with this stuff, resigned to being the first and probably only person (ever) to listen to this material all through. But I only got ten minutes into the first tape when I gave up. There is nothing - nothing - more boring than listening to the Pogues chatter on inconsequentially in the studio, punctuated by the occasional "does anyone know what we're meant to be doing?" or even an overly-optimistic "can we play the song then?" or, most frequently of all, a plaintive "are we all here now, is Darryl back? Darryl?" Progress is slow enough in the rehearsal room, God knows, but add the factors of sonic and spatial separation [i.e. in our own little corner of the studio we cannot see most of the others and can only hear each other on headphones] and it's a wonder we ever made a single record, much less seven albums, two soundtracks and a 5-CD box set.

In short, these things have to be stumbled upon in the course of the regular archive work. Actively seeking them out is a bit dishonest and is certainly, as far as I'm concerned, outside my pay grade. However, none of you knows how close you came to hearing "The Pogues' Party Pieces", a one-off thing recorded in one take [without rehearsal] for an emergency b side in 1985 but never used. It contains things like short bursts of Jem singing "From A Jack To A King", Andrew singing his German folk song "Lochen, Lochen" (sp?), Cait reciting a limerick ("there was a young maid from Kilkenny....."), Spider declaiming "The Bold Fenian Men" as an impersonation of Laurence Olivier giving his Richard The Third, my own attempt on Dietrich's "Falling In Love Again", Shane singing Elvis Costello's "Lipstick Vogue" a la Costello and Costello himself doing "Boys From The County Hell" in his best Bob Dylan impersonation.

Possibly, myself and Nick Robbins spent more time on this track than on any other on the box set! We edited, re-edited, chopped down and re-positioned for months on and off before, a few days before final deadline, we just figured there was nothing we could do with it that would not sound self-indulgent or not-in-a-good-way silly. We toyed with the idea of isolating the best parts - Spider, Shane, Andrew and Elvis, essentially, and dotting them around the box set uncredited, but at this point, having finally secured the agreement of the whole band on the content and running order of the box set, I was not, at a time when one or two members were already starting to get flaky about the inclusion of one or other of their lesser vignettes, about to risk going back to the band for further content approval.

"The Pogues Party Pieces" finishes with Stiff Records supremo Dave Robinson reciting the lyrics of "The Rocky Road To Dublin" [this was the first thing we edited out!] before the entire ensemble joins in a rousing acapella chorus of "We are the Pogue Mahones/Fuck The Clash and the Rolling Stones", repeated into fade out.....................

[Shaz]

Call me a sad completist git, but I'm rather sorry "The Pogues Party Pieces" didn't make the cut!

[meowhouse]

OH my god I would have absolutely loved to have "The Pogues Party Pieces" on the set! I think that kind of stuff is so interesting, because we "regular" people are probably never going to be able to hear anything like that live. It's kind of like being in a green room, you know what I mean? It's like at a TV taping or movie set: everyone *always* wants to know what happens in between takes or backstage. They don't care about what got broadcast; they want to know what was left out.

"We are the Pogue Mahones/Fuck The Clash and the Rolling Stones", repeated into fade out.....................

O if only to have a recording of that!

"Now Look Them A Slight Bit Crooked In The Other Eye -The Pogues Box Set 2: Outtakes of Pogues Box Set 1" for the True Fan® Only

[philipchevron]

OH my god I would have absolutely loved to have "The Pogues Party Pieces" on the set! I think that kind of stuff is so interesting, because we "regular" people are probably never going to be able to hear anything like that live. It's kind of like being in a green room, you know what I mean? It's like at a TV taping or movie set: everyone *always* wants to know what happens in between takes or backstage. They don't care about what got broadcast; they want to know what was left out.

"We are the Pogue Mahones/Fuck The Clash and the Rolling Stones", repeated into fade out.....................

O if only to have a recording of that!

"Now Look Them A Slight Bit Crooked In The Other Eye -The Pogues Box Set 2: Outtakes of Pogues Box Set 1" for the True Fan® Only

Well, we can only hope the bootleggers are up to the task on this one. I feel certain it's not something the brothers Warner would be interested in. Not when they haven't repackaged "Streams of Whiskey" in, oh, six months or so.