MacRua wrote:Kinda one would not call a body without head "a man" as well as nobody would call a head without body "a human being"...
hate to quote old stuff, but I'm new here.
Regarding such...have you been talking to my philosphy professor?
as a side. A head that resembles one found on a human being, could still be called a human being. However, "a head" is not a necessary condition of being a human being. The same could be said of a body without a head.
Anyway. The whole post-shane pogues will indeed come up time and time again, as it did during the post-shane era.
My feeling was that the two albums, Waiting for Herb and Pogue Mahone were/are indeed gems in their own right. I like them both very much. Infact, I like them more than Hell's Ditch, and much of Peace & Love which are
still very good albums.
My argument then was that they should not have retained the name "The Pogues". Not because "Shane was the Pogues" on his own, but because it
was such a drastic change that to me, they no longer sounded like "The Pogues" as an entity. I believe they understood this by naming the following album "Pogue Mahone" so that people knew infact that they
were still the Pogues.
It was only a couple years after discovering the Pogues that Waiting For Herb was released here. I really hadn't had the time to differentiate between with-Shane Pogues and post-Shane Pogues. For some time, Waiting for Herb was a very popular disc with me. The b-sides however from the singles for Waiting For Herb are as good as and even better than some of the best earlier album tracks. Their gems, alongside Streams of Whiskey, IISFFGWG, London Girl etc.
But anyway, yeah, Shane was not "The Pogues" all on his own, but "The Pogues" without Shane, AT THE TIME
was a bit of a misconception.
Coop