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Favorite track on Peace and Love

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:28 pm

Beisty wrote:Scott

While I’m sure Philip will give a more accurate answer, I believe that this track was Jem’s baby mainly. I know he had tried it all before with Metropolis, but I think I remember reading that in that song he had felt a bit of pressure to still put in the Irish bits. With Gridlock he wanted an out and out jazz blast. And on Peace & Love he finally felt he had the freedom to do that.


"Gridlock" is the track I most readily think of when Shanes's oft-quoted pseudo-criticism "With Peace And Love they thought they could do whatever they felt like and did, more or less" appears. Which is exactly why it is the first track. Our capacities as musicians showed very little sign of stretching beyond our ambitions at that point as a developing band. This was so blatantly and comically absurd that we got it all out of the way at once, Side One, Track One, followed by the new Pogues album if you choose NOT to consider "Gridlock" part of the new Pogues album (which I do). Personally, I thought it was an eloquent and witty way to make the point. That may have been the same day "Contact Yourself" unexpectedly went missing from the album, along with any number of other half-cocked experiments that are not actually on the album at all but may certainly have made an appearance in the early stages of recording the album.

If memory serves, most of "Gridlock" was worked out in Spain during the endless "Fiesta" video shoot with Adrian Edmondson. Bored to tears being bulls, toreadors, minstrels, barkers, cops, comics, kings and whatever else, we set up our backline in the rear of a grubby ould transit, a good distance away from Winnebago Land, and just played, acoustically. Andrew Ranken gets the shared credit because, self-evidently, Jem did not actually compose the lengthy drum pattern intro which Andrew had been legitimately writing for some time.

Though I can't be certain, there is no reason to suppose that not all the Pogues play on the recording. My thoughts are that, on the contrary, Lillywhite would rather have insisted on that, to add a "guess who plays what" dimension to the artifice behind the art.
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Post Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:34 pm

Boat train would be the best song on the album if the whistle was louder maybe
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Gridlock continued

Post Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:47 pm

When P&L came out, Gridlock absolutely blew me away. I loved it and annoyed my friends by playing it loudly. Now, I have to admit, I end up skipping it.
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Post Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:17 pm

I'm a fan of Gridlock, I think it's the perfect rollicking intro to a very very good album. The funny thing is, although I love a wide range of musical styles, I've never been into jazz at all (with a couple of notable exceptions, namely Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" and Miles' "Kind Of Blue") so I'd be an unlikely fan. I guess it just works very well and it's played superbly. It rocks, in a jazz kinda way, obviously!
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Post Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:06 pm

nboldock wrote:I'm a fan of Gridlock, I think it's the perfect rollicking intro to a very very good album. The funny thing is, although I love a wide range of musical styles, I've never been into jazz at all (with a couple of notable exceptions, namely Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" and Miles' "Kind Of Blue") so I'd be an unlikely fan. I guess it just works very well and it's played superbly. It rocks, in a jazz kinda way, obviously!


Well, that's the stuff we were listening to also. And "Sketches Of Spain" (Miles, not Jem).
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:00 pm

anfield boy wrote:When P&L came out, Gridlock absolutely blew me away. I loved it and annoyed my friends by playing it loudly. Now, I have to admit, I end up skipping it.


I certainly love P&L, but I would have to say in my opinion, that the vocal mix on some (if not all) of the tracks are buried beneath the insrtument tracks. I also think that Spider's whistle tracks are a little too low in the mix. It's a great cd, but the mix was far better on IISFFGWG the other Lillywhite production.
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Post Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:05 pm

nboldock wrote:I'm a fan of Gridlock, I think it's the perfect rollicking intro to a very very good album. The funny thing is, although I love a wide range of musical styles, I've never been into jazz at all (with a couple of notable exceptions, namely Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" and Miles' "Kind Of Blue") so I'd be an unlikely fan. I guess it just works very well and it's played superbly. It rocks, in a jazz kinda way, obviously!


And a masterpiece it is, that would perfectly fit into the current boom of street brass bands.
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