Sid and Nancy

[Chaz]

Have noticed that there is a special edition of Sid and Nancy released on May 14th.

Does anyone know whether the soundtrack is available. I used to have the album on tape.

It would be really good if Philip could do a re-mastered version of the Sid and Nancy soundtrack as was done for Straight To Hell.

Have also read on previous threads that some Sid and Nancy Pogues tracks may appear on the new album containing unreleased material. Is this where "Glued Up and Speeding" comes from?

[philipchevron]

Have noticed that there is a special edition of Sid and Nancy released on May 14th.

Does anyone know whether the soundtrack is available. I used to have the album on tape.

It would be really good if Philip could do a re-mastered version of the Sid and Nancy soundtrack as was done for Straight To Hell.

Have also read on previous threads that some Sid and Nancy Pogues tracks may appear on the new album containing unreleased material. Is this where "Glued Up and Speeding" comes from?

MCA Records own the Sid And Nancy recordings. Although we did a few things for the movie which were not on the album, there is not enough to justify a special Pogues-friendly edition. Hopefully, some/most/all of the odds and ends will be on the Box Set. There's a nice demo of "Haunted" too.

[Low D]

There's a nice demo of "Haunted" too.

so, before it was ruined by the producer & turned into a radio-friendly pop song? (thought i remember reading the band's opinion being more or less that).

[philipchevron]

There's a nice demo of "Haunted" too.

so, before it was ruined by the producer & turned into a radio-friendly pop song? (thought i remember reading the band's opinion being more or less that).

Craig Leon was an exceptionally competent producer who distinguished himself with records by, among many others, The Ramones and Sir Douglas Quintet. We recorded his version of "Haunted" at the legendary Olympic Studios in Barnes and, I think it's fair to say, Craig got a bit carried away. I think his production was a tribute to something. He was found of uttering things like "I scream Godhead on your Leon Russell homage" in the studio. What the heck! If the record had been a hit, I'd probably be calling him a genius.

The Elephant Studios demo was about as spare as "Haunted" ever got, though that may have been bested by the version the Radiators From Space used to do as an encore when Cait was in the band.

[pogues24]

I have heard that there is a special edition DVD of Sid and Nancy set for release. I read it on http://www.sex-pistols.net. I myself, found this movie to be fairly inaccurate (The Sex Pistols history pissed me the fuck off,) but still rather entertaining. Maybe the special edition will have Johny Lydon's commentary denouncing the film (you know he isn't the biggest fan of this movie.)

Iain

[Shaz]

The Elephant Studios demo was about as spare as "Haunted" ever got, though that may have been bested by the version the Radiators From Space used to do as an encore when Cait was in the band.

Please tell me the Radiators' version has been recorded for posterity, Philip!

[philipchevron]

The Elephant Studios demo was about as spare as "Haunted" ever got, though that may have been bested by the version the Radiators From Space used to do as an encore when Cait was in the band.

Please tell me the Radiators' version has been recorded for posterity, Philip!

Um...doubt it. Unless someone bootlegged us.

[Shaz]

The Elephant Studios demo was about as spare as "Haunted" ever got, though that may have been bested by the version the Radiators From Space used to do as an encore when Cait was in the band.

Please tell me the Radiators' version has been recorded for posterity, Philip!

Um...doubt it. Unless someone bootlegged us.

Curses, curses, district nurses!

[sectofone]

It would be really good if Philip could do a re-mastered version of the Sid and Nancy soundtrack as was done for Straight To Hell.

A remastered edition of the soundtrack was released in 2001; unfortunately not including any bonus tracks ...

[nboldock]

The Elephant Studios demo was about as spare as "Haunted" ever got, though that may have been bested by the version the Radiators From Space used to do as an encore when Cait was in the band.

Please tell me the Radiators' version has been recorded for posterity, Philip!

Um...doubt it. Unless someone bootlegged us.

What's the betting someone did, then shoved the tape (or disc, or whatever) in a drawer somewhere and forgot they had it? Damn them, I say!

[Behan]

There's a nice demo of "Haunted" too.

so, before it was ruined by the producer & turned into a radio-friendly pop song? (thought i remember reading the band's opinion being more or less that).

Craig Leon was an exceptionally competent producer who distinguished himself with records by, among many others, The Ramones and Sir Douglas Quintet. We recorded his version of "Haunted" at the legendary Olympic Studios in Barnes and, I think it's fair to say, Craig got a bit carried away. I think his production was a tribute to something. He was found of uttering things like "I scream Godhead on your Leon Russell homage" in the studio. What the heck! If the record had been a hit, I'd probably be calling him a genius.

The Elephant Studios demo was about as spare as "Haunted" ever got, though that may have been bested by the version the Radiators From Space used to do as an encore when Cait was in the band.

I do like the Sid & Nancy "Haunted" version, especially when the Pogues added that mandolin-Stringy-Banjoey chordal stuff in the break part of the song. To me that lets the listener know that this "altenative/punk" sounding song is the one and only Pogues and that they don't just play Irish music, they "Rock" out using Irish instruments. They can certainly perform this way in many genres.

[Hounslow Pogue]

On the soundtrack for S & N the track is entitled "Needle for Paddy Garcia" but the actual title is "Pistol for Paddy Garcia".

Was there any reason for this?

[philipchevron]

On the soundtrack for S & N the track is entitled "Needle for Paddy Garcia" but the actual title is "Pistol for Paddy Garcia".

Was there any reason for this?

Well now, I didn't know that. Neither is on the Sid And Nancy OST CD, so I have to assume you meant it is listed in the movie's closing credits, which it may well so be. I have not heard a copy of the OST since 1986 or so, nor watched the closing credits. Which is why I purchased up to date CD and DVD last week, the better to solve this and several other mysteries surrounding the use of our music in Alex Cox's movies.

Thing is, we did actually record "Needle For Paddy Garcia" specifically for Sid And Nancy. "Paddy Garcia" was a half-serious but in any event incomplete or abandoned project of Jem's to tell the narrative story of this Bandito Paddy, using a mixture of aural clues only - no lyrics. "The Junk Theme" would also be part of this project too as is my own unreleased companion piece to that, "Spiked". We had recorded the first tune in the sequence, "A Pistol For Paddy Garcia" as a b side and Cassette/CD bonus in 1985. [And oddly, there is actually almost as much Spaghetti Western /Irish crossover fusion going on in our submissions for the Sid And Nancy picture as there would be for Straight To Hell, a movie that originally bore the working title A Pistol For Paddy Garcia incidentally! I think the first inclination I had that what we would not be doing, after all, in the scorched Spanish desert, would be making great movie art was when I noticed Jem had nabbed himself the plum but essentially cameo role of Grandpa MacMahon, which gave him lots of time to lounge by the hotel pool in Almeria (25 miles from the Location) reading improving books and topping up his tan. Nope!! I tell a lie, the first inclination I had was when, on my first day on the film, I watched Alex Cox fire both John Cusack and Tim Robbins for refusing to have haircuts for their roles as Jarhead #1 and Jarhead #2. "Alex, man, this is a SINGLE day's work! I actually NEED my hair for the 8 week movie shoot that is supposed to commence principal photograhy TOMORROW!" Alex lectured the boys about their appalling lack of professionialism and fired them on the spot. For good measure, a train of Camels also lost their jobs that day, as if to show everyone that he, Alex Cox also had dominion over real beasts and not just a couple of Hollywood Brat-packers. I never did get to learn which roles the Camels would otherwise have played in the movie, but 6 distinctly shamefaced looking Droms comenced their long journey back to Morocco that day. Robbins and Cusack just hit the town, where they doubtless spent an evening discussing improving books with Jem Finer. ]

But I digress. It is actually possible that "Needle" is in the Sid movie but credited as "Pistol". Or vice-versa of course. I'm hoping we will use a fair amount of the Sid And Nancy music on our upcoming box set, though I have had the darnedest time getting it to fall into a workable running order. It is, in short, at the top of my worksheet for next week.