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BOX SET - FINAL APPEAL

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Post Thu May 17, 2007 8:03 am

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mats wrote:How many cd´s are you planning for the box? Must be at least 3 or 4 I hope.


We don't know yet. I'd say it's likely to be either 3 or 4, depending on how the final selection seems to hang together. [/i]


Please don´t be too critical about sound quality. Even if it´s a bad recording it will be interesting for us fans. :D :D
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Post Thu May 17, 2007 10:32 am

Just wondering if any of the songs are deemed good enough, would the band consider releasing any of them as a single?
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Post Thu May 17, 2007 9:57 pm

Simon Maguire wrote:Just wondering if any of the songs are deemed good enough, would the band consider releasing any of them as a single?


That would be cool. Personally I'd love a nice limited edition numbered 7" or something. Nice indeed.

Ya know, I can't fucking wait for this boxset (even though I have to). Pardon my French but that was genuinely deserving of a profane emphasis.
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But to me it's everything."
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:43 pm

If there will be any new material recorded, NW3 would be great. It´s great even in that old demo.
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:21 pm

John Powers wrote:If there will be any new material recorded, NW3 would be great. It´s great even in that old demo.


Who said anything about recording new material? As to NW3, it exists in three separate recordings, two of which have finished vocals, so I'm confident it stands a good chance of making it to the box in one form or another.
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:04 pm

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John Powers wrote:If there will be any new material recorded, NW3 would be great. It´s great even in that old demo.


Who said anything about recording new material? As to NW3, it exists in three separate recordings, two of which have finished vocals, so I'm confident it stands a good chance of making it to the box in one form or another.


When you say finished vocals do you mean good enough to be on an album? I think you mentioned once before that NW3 wasn´t released because Shane never managed to record proper vocals. I have The Falconer demos. Is there a better version?
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:33 pm

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philipchevron wrote:
John Powers wrote:If there will be any new material recorded, NW3 would be great. It´s great even in that old demo.


Who said anything about recording new material? As to NW3, it exists in three separate recordings, two of which have finished vocals, so I'm confident it stands a good chance of making it to the box in one form or another.


When you say finished vocals do you mean good enough to be on an album? I think you mentioned once before that NW3 wasn´t released because Shane never managed to record proper vocals. I have The Falconer demos. Is there a better version?


As well as Falconer Studios, we also recorded the song at Firehouse studios in October 1987, early demos for what would become Peace And Love. The only version that does not have vocals is the master version we - finally - got round to recording for Hell's Ditch but which Shane never got around to singing on.
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:53 pm

Thanks, hope you include the early version on the box. :D
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:07 pm

I would really enjoy hearing the properly recorded, yet instrumental version as well, but not so badly as to sacrifice the inclusion of other unique tracks.
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:16 pm

I too would very much like to hear the finished instrumental of NW3, to see what it would be like on Hells Ditch.
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Post Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:23 pm

Did the Pogues record "Aisling" is that going to be in the set? Also didn't Shane want Summer in Siam as a haiku. Is there a recording of that? and are the songs from Straight to Hell going on the Box set?
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Post Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:28 pm

Reborn A Snail wrote:Did the Pogues record "Aisling" is that going to be in the set? Also didn't Shane want Summer in Siam as a haiku. Is there a recording of that? and are the songs from Straight to Hell going on the Box set?


We recorded "Aisling" and it is a contender for the box set - almost nothing is a dead cert at this stage. We never did record the Haiku version of "Summer In Siam", not even when we did a demo for it. I was always frustrated about that, as was Shane of course, but it was decided early on that "Siam" was single material and a Hiaku could never possibly be long enough for a single. This is something both myself and Shane strenuously disagreed with, but we lost the battle. By my estimation, the piece should be about 1 minute 55 seconds (one vocal verse/one instrumental verse) which still would have made it 6 seconds longer than the first Radiators from Space single.

The Straight To Hell music will remain where it belongs, and where it is available in full - on the Straight To Hell Returns CD which was released in 2004. That said, "The Good The Bad And the Ugly" is a candidate for the box set in its own right. It would not be unreasonable to expect a fair-sized chunk from our Sid And Nancy score, however.
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Post Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:19 pm

We recorded "Aisling" and it is a contender for the box set - almost nothing is a dead cert at this stage.


I hope it does get in, its one of the unreleased tracks I am most looking forward to.
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Post Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:43 pm

Are there any demos, from the time that Shane was still in the band, that are not sung by him? shanemacgowan.de mentions "I Don’t Know About Love" with Terry Woods and there are "Redemtion Song" and "Murder Ska" with Spider from The Falconer Demos. But are there others? Would be great to hear some on the box.
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Post Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:54 pm

mats wrote:Are there any demos, from the time that Shane was still in the band, that are not sung by him? shanemacgowan.de mentions "I Don’t Know About Love" with Terry Woods and there are "Redemtion Song" and "Murder Ska" with Spider from The Falconer Demos. But are there others? Would be great to hear some on the box.


Yes is the short answer. "I Don't Know About Love" is a solo version of a song Terry had previously put on the B side of his "Tennessee Stud" 45 and I think it only appeared on the Abbey Road sessions to lend some credibility to the fiction that we were actually recording, not Pogues demos but "The Terry Woods Solo Album". Spider's version of "Redemption Song" is not as good as he's ever performed it, but "Murder Ska #1" and "Murder Ska #2" (recorded several months apart) are both terrific, and "Nicaragua Libre", one of only two outtakes (in total) from the IISFFGWG sessions, is pretty good too. But there are more such nuggets, lots more.
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