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How Come & The Pogues musical direction

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:18 pm
by Jackthelad
I've been fishing around the internet but I can't find any tabs or chords for How Come from the Pogues Mahone album. How come there arn't any about?

How come, How come????????!!!!!!

Anyone have any... :lol:

Re: How Come

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:01 am
by Seven Towers
Jackthelad wrote:I've been fishing around the internet but I can't find any tabs or chords for How Come from the Pogues Mahone album. How come there arn't any about?

How come, How come????????!!!!!!

Anyone have any... :lol:

Because, they figured only one moron in the world would be desperate enough to be looking for it.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:15 am
by Michaelo

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:56 pm
by dawsonn
seven towers your the moron :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:14 pm
by nboldock
dawsonn wrote:Seven Towers - you're the moron :lol:


Seconded! (and improved)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:08 am
by Seven Towers
dawsonn wrote:seven towers your the moron :lol:


I once caught a big trout in Andre Dawson's creek.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:30 am
by scotty anxiety
worst pogues song. ever.


sanx

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:53 pm
by dsweeney
scotty anxiety wrote:worst pogues song. ever.


sanx
Absolute bollocks mate. That accolade goes to " Blue heaven ", the garbage " Honky tonk women" and others on P&L and HD. " How come " ain't much of a choon, granted, but with it's whistle break and jaunty accordian and catchy chorus it's a great opening ( though one of the lesser tracks ) to a fuckin' fine album. An album by the way that has much more in common with the true original spirit of the Pogues than either of the last two albums with Shane. Loads of Irish trad, rootsy cajun and some lovely Irish/French accordian stuff. All produced raw but clear as a bell.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:50 pm
by in_the_morning
dsweeney wrote:
scotty anxiety wrote:worst pogues song. ever.


sanx
Absolute bollocks mate. That accolade goes to " Blue heaven ", the garbage " Honky tonk women" and others on P&L and HD. " How come " ain't much of a choon, granted, but with it's whistle break and jaunty accordian and catchy chorus it's a great opening ( though one of the lesser tracks ) to a fuckin' fine album. An album by the way that has much more in common with the true original spirit of the Pogues than either of the last two albums with Shane. Loads of Irish trad, rootsy cajun and some lovely Irish/French accordian stuff. All produced raw but clear as a bell.


Bollocks as well. It's always a matter of personal taste. I like Blue Heaven...and I think How Come is quite okay. I think the spirit of the Pogues is on P&L and HD as well, because their original idea, to mix something very old & traditional with other influences and a punk mentality...on HD there is a lot of eastern stuff mixed with Irish stuff and rock and everything...it's a wonderful album!

Re: How Come

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:19 am
by dsweeney
Fair enough I suppose. Although I'd say you are in a minority of one regarding " Blue heaven ". The original idea of the Pogues was to take Irish folk and traditional music and combine it with a punk or rock beat.It was NOT to play all sorts of jazz/rock/calypso " world music " nonsense and even the band themselves I think would acknowledge that now. Having said that, " Hell's ditch " has some great tunes on it and is at least a consistently fairly good listen, very upbeat, positive and for the most part, with Shane's trip to Thailand having a calming influence on things.

Re: How Come

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:29 am
by philipchevron
dsweeney wrote:The original idea of the Pogues was to take Irish folk and traditional music and combine it with a punk or rock beat.


The original idea of the Pogues was nothing of the sort, it was greatly more nuanced and eclectic than that. Your view is the common one that has been restrospectively applied to the band for reasons of convenience and shorthand. "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "Me and Bobby McGee" are just three songs from the early days of the band which flatten your theory before the band even sets foot in a recording studio. Our experiments were not always successful, and Peace and Love demonstrated there were limits, after all, to how far we could go, but it also showed we refused to play safe and offer an inevitably more pallid Fall From Grace: 2 which many lesser bands would have done.

End of.

Re: How Come

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:36 am
by Low D
philipchevron wrote:"Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "Me and Bobby McGee" are just three songs from the early days of the band which flatten your theory before the band even sets foot in a recording studio.
End of.


Did Cait sing "All Tomorrow's Parties"? I love that song, obviously i've gathered not quite enough bootlegs & box sets, as i hadn't heard it!

Re: How Come

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:20 am
by dsweeney
philipchevron wrote:
dsweeney wrote:The original idea of the Pogues was to take Irish folk and traditional music and combine it with a punk or rock beat.


The original idea of the Pogues was nothing of the sort, it was greatly more nuanced and eclectic than that. Your view is the common one that has been restrospectively applied to the band for reasons of convenience and shorthand. "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "Me and Bobby McGee" are just three songs from the early days of the band which flatten your theory before the band even sets foot in a recording studio. Our experiments were not always successful, and Peace and Love demonstrated there were limits, after all, to how far we could go, but it also showed we refused to play safe and offer an inevitably more pallid Fall From Grace: 2 which many lesser bands would have done.

End of.

Sorry Phil but I'm not having that, no way. Every band in their early incarnation will basically play any fuckin' tune they can get their hands around, something to kick around in rehearsals etc. The Pistols used to play " Steppin' stone " by the fuckni' Monkees for God's sake ! It is YOU who are retrospecitively applying some notion of always being " experimental " to justify the later " change of direction ". You didn't join until " Rum.. " anyway so weren't around in " the early days ". From documentary dvd on Shanes life he has it that the idea was to basically take Irish traditional music and give it a rock beat and revitalise it "for a young audience". I'm not saying Shane himself didn't stray from this original vision , because he did. " Yeah yeah....." and some of the stuff on " Hell's ditch " prove that. But the ORIGINAL idea of the band was to play Irish folk with a punk energy and vitality.

Re: How Come

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:40 am
by philipchevron
dsweeney wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
dsweeney wrote:The original idea of the Pogues was to take Irish folk and traditional music and combine it with a punk or rock beat.


The original idea of the Pogues was nothing of the sort, it was greatly more nuanced and eclectic than that. Your view is the common one that has been restrospectively applied to the band for reasons of convenience and shorthand. "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "Me and Bobby McGee" are just three songs from the early days of the band which flatten your theory before the band even sets foot in a recording studio. Our experiments were not always successful, and Peace and Love demonstrated there were limits, after all, to how far we could go, but it also showed we refused to play safe and offer an inevitably more pallid Fall From Grace: 2 which many lesser bands would have done.

End of.

Sorry Phil but I'm not having that, no way.




As you wish.

Re: How Come

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:53 am
by James
Low D wrote:
philipchevron wrote:"Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "Me and Bobby McGee" are just three songs from the early days of the band which flatten your theory before the band even sets foot in a recording studio.
End of.


Did Cait sing "All Tomorrow's Parties"? I love that song, obviously i've gathered not quite enough bootlegs & box sets, as i hadn't heard it!


I don't even know if it's on any bootlegs. Shame.

I must be a philistine though, because I think the Velvets' song would be so much better with a Lou vocal. I like the songs Nico sings on very much, but I don't like her voice at all.

Nick Cave's "Rawhide" version is so good.