Re: How Come & The Pogues musical direction

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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:41 pm
by firehazard
dsweeney wrote:...One thing I would say on something mentioned by somebody further up, about " cover " versions. To me, a " cover " is when somebody or some group does a song that was written by somebody else. WHEN the song was written has nothing whatsoever to do with it, it's still a cover version of somebody else's song...
I have to say that basically I'd agree with that. I've seen much tighter definitions, but it seems to me that a cover is a cover.
Re: How Come & The Pogues musical direction

Posted:
Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:09 pm
by Doktor Avalanche
firehazard wrote:dsweeney wrote:...One thing I would say on something mentioned by somebody further up, about " cover " versions. To me, a " cover " is when somebody or some group does a song that was written by somebody else. WHEN the song was written has nothing whatsoever to do with it, it's still a cover version of somebody else's song...
I have to say that basically I'd agree with that. I've seen much tighter definitions, but it seems to me that a cover is a cover.
"I know it when I see it." -Ed Meese
Re: How Come & The Pogues musical direction

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Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:47 pm
by Fr. McGreer
dsweeney wrote:Well, if you play with fire.... I said I'm not taking the blame this time so if you dont' want to parlay then please feel free to fuck right off, just jog on, nothing to see here!
Weren't you the one preaching that nobody had a sense of humour on this forum?

Re: How Come & The Pogues musical direction

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Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:51 am
by dsweeney
Was I ? I honestly can't remember. But yeah, I was merely pointing out that if people have nothing to contribute then they don't have to, you know ? There's no need to come on saying how this is shit and that is crap and this that and the other. If you don't want to watch, then switch channels. Easy as that.
Another thing about covers. I think somebody said that it matters whether the song was a hit, or was well known at least. That has nought to do with it. It didn't matter a damn whether the public at large knew the original " Police and thieves " or not. The fact is, it wasn't written by Joe and Mick, or The Clash themselves. Therefore, it was a cover version. Also, as somebody else seemed to imply, it doesn't matter that their version was significantly different from the original ( kinda saying that it was so different that it was almost an entirely new track ). That surely is the whole point of doing a cover, that you put your own spin on it, so to speak, that it isn't just a slavish, carbon copy of the original. Sid's My Way is a perfect example. He put his own distinct mark on the thing, but it is most certainly still the same song, still " My Way" by Anka and whoever, can't remember off hand.
Re: How Come & The Pogues musical direction

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Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:21 pm
by Fr. McGreer
dsweeney wrote:Was I ? I honestly can't remember. But yeah, I was merely pointing out that if people have nothing to contribute then they don't have to, you know ? There's no need to come on saying how this is shit and that is crap and this that and the other. If you don't want to watch, then switch channels. Easy as that.
Yeah, as usual, you're right again. Time to switch channels. Yawn......

Re: How Come & The Pogues musical direction

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Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:22 am
by dsweeney
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dsweeney, if you can't disagree without resorting to personal attacks then just don't post. Thanks. -- DzM