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Reissues - why Matilda twice?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:06 am
by Mick Molloy
Why did 'The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda' occur on both Red Rose and Rum Sodomy??? :?:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:22 am
by MacRua
It's bonus track on Red Roses, i.e. single version (Dark Streets/Waltzing Mathilda single, 1984)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:30 am
by Mick Molloy
Cheers

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:28 pm
by Sober
Besides, the Red Roses version is way shorter, for it only has half of the verses.

Mathilda without the brass

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:30 pm
by No Brass
Do the Pogues have a version of Waltzing Mathilda without the trumpets, brass, horns or whatever it is ?

If so where so, please.

Thanks

S.

Re: Mathilda without the brass

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:32 pm
by philipchevron
No Brass wrote:Do the Pogues have a version of Waltzing Mathilda without the trumpets, brass, horns or whatever it is ?

If so where so, please.

Thanks

S.


B side of the first single "Dark Streets Of London". Remastered as bonus track on Red Roses For Me reissue (WSM/Rhino)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:44 pm
by Apachetear
For that matter...why was Rainy Night In Soho a bonus on Hell's Ditch?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:12 am
by Sober
They remixed it for a single that they released at the end of the 80s or the beginning of the 90s. I don't remember which single that was though.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:45 am
by MacRua
Poguetry In Motion EP and Rainy Night single (both 1991)?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:49 am
by Zuzana
There is more info about the different versions of the song in the Official Music FAQ.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:52 am
by philipchevron
The original Poguetry In Motion EP came out in early 1986 and was produced by Elvis Costello. The 1991 version [on the reissued Poguetry EP and as a single A side in its own right] was produced by Steve Lilliywhite and contains various elements from the original recording as well as several new parts. I can no longer remember which parts are from 1986 and which are from 1991, though I daresay Medusans with acute ears may be able to figure it out. Kirsty's backing vocal was new, obviously.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:13 pm
by The Duke of Ingmar
philipchevron wrote:The original Poguetry In Motion EP came out in early 1986 and was produced by Elvis Costello. The 1991 version [on the reissued Poguetry EP and as a single A side in its own right] was produced by Steve Lilliywhite and contains various elements from the original recording as well as several new parts. I can no longer remember which parts are from 1986 and which are from 1991, though I daresay Medusans with acute ears may be able to figure it out. Kirsty's backing vocal was new, obviously.


How did it come that Steve Lillywhite and the Pogues worked together again after Joe Strummer produced "Hell´s ditch" in 1990 ? Or was "Rainy night in Soho" recorded in 1989 and just released it 1991 ?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:14 pm
by philipchevron
The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
philipchevron wrote:The original Poguetry In Motion EP came out in early 1986 and was produced by Elvis Costello. The 1991 version [on the reissued Poguetry EP and as a single A side in its own right] was produced by Steve Lilliywhite and contains various elements from the original recording as well as several new parts. I can no longer remember which parts are from 1986 and which are from 1991, though I daresay Medusans with acute ears may be able to figure it out. Kirsty's backing vocal was new, obviously.


How did it come that Steve Lillywhite and the Pogues worked together again after Joe Strummer produced "Hell´s ditch" in 1990 ? Or was "Rainy night in Soho" recorded in 1989 and just released it 1991 ?


It was a one-off job, an attempt by Mr Warners to find a "new" hit single to go with The Best of The Pogues, I think.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:01 pm
by Heather
philipchevron wrote:The original Poguetry In Motion EP came out in early 1986 and was produced by Elvis Costello. The 1991 version [on the reissued Poguetry EP and as a single A side in its own right] was produced by Steve Lilliywhite and contains various elements from the original recording as well as several new parts. I can no longer remember which parts are from 1986 and which are from 1991, though I daresay Medusans with acute ears may be able to figure it out. Kirsty's backing vocal was new, obviously.


There is definitely a difference between the two versions, I have the 1986 EP version and I can here it. quite clearly.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:14 pm
by Fighting Bill Treacy
Heather wrote:
philipchevron wrote:The original Poguetry In Motion EP came out in early 1986 and was produced by Elvis Costello. The 1991 version [on the reissued Poguetry EP and as a single A side in its own right] was produced by Steve Lilliywhite and contains various elements from the original recording as well as several new parts. I can no longer remember which parts are from 1986 and which are from 1991, though I daresay Medusans with acute ears may be able to figure it out. Kirsty's backing vocal was new, obviously.


There is definitely a difference between the two versions, I have the 1986 EP version and I can here it. quite clearly.


You can hear a clearer guitar in the new version, and it has less banjo on it