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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:01 pm
by pogues23
What's the story with the new reissue albums, I bought the other albums back in 2004. Are the new only going to clear up the several print mistakes in liner notes and other places

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:34 pm
by JohnG
The Battle March (Medley) and South Australia were on the original IISFWG CD(at least on the copy I bought!) so can't be bonus tracks.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:54 pm
by philipchevron
JohnG wrote:The Battle March (Medley) and South Australia were on the original IISFWG CD(at least on the copy I bought!) so can't be bonus tracks.


They were bonus tracks on the original CD - clumsily inserted, in my opinion - but were not on the vinyl album which was still, in 1988, the principal format. On the remasters, they are positioned where they always should have been - at the end, when the album proper finishes. Something similar happens with "A Pistol For Paddy Garcia" on RS&TL. By Peace and Love, CDs had become the principal format, or at least equal with vinyl. In any event, apart from the opportunity to tidy up the running order on Fall From Grace, we certainly did not wish to presume that everyone who'd bought the vinyl album in 1988 had already replaced it with the CD version by 2004. As Medusa well illustrates, vinyl (and shellac) are still very much living formats.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:59 am
by LittleCupcakes
philipchevron wrote:As Medusa well illustrates, vinyl (and shellac) are still very much living formats.


You can take my vinyl copy of IISFFGWG (my first Pogues purchase) when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

And vinyl sounds better!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:38 pm
by Heather
LittleCupcakes wrote:And vinyl sounds better!


I agree, vinyl sounds better and not just on The Pogues stuff.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:46 pm
by JohnG
philipchevron wrote:
JohnG wrote:The Battle March (Medley) and South Australia were on the original IISFWG CD(at least on the copy I bought!) so can't be bonus tracks.


They were bonus tracks on the original CD - clumsily inserted, in my opinion - but were not on the vinyl album which was still, in 1988, the principal format. On the remasters, they are positioned where they always should have been - at the end, when the album proper finishes. Something similar happens with "A Pistol For Paddy Garcia" on RS&TL. By Peace and Love, CDs had become the principal format, or at least equal with vinyl. In any event, apart from the opportunity to tidy up the running order on Fall From Grace, we certainly did not wish to presume that everyone who'd bought the vinyl album in 1988 had already replaced it with the CD version by 2004. As Medusa well illustrates, vinyl (and shellac) are still very much living formats.


Thanks for the clarification.

Re: a review of the Fall From Grace CD from amazon.com

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:03 pm
by Sam's Cross
philipchevron wrote:Not just a pretty face

One could look at the cover of this album and dismiss the Pogues as yet another super cute boy band that the chicks would go nuts nuts for. Unlike N'Sync and New Kids, these guys can play their instruments really good. They don't dance near as well as the backsteet boys, but I don't think they care. They would literally beat the poop out of the other boy bands. Their music reminds me of my trips to Ireland for Ultimate Fighting tournaments. I would spend the day at the pub, kicking back Harp after Harp until my manager Seamus McCoy would tell me I needed to get to the arena for my match. I would walk in and Shaymus would point where I needed to go and I would walk up and when the referee said go I unleashed a barrage of shiverwoks, Knockfacers and Blittycrushes. I usually had a submission in under 20 seconds because I was like a tornado of punishment. The Pogues are the ultimate dichotomy, a boy band with angry music. Don't let their teen beat cover looks fool you, this band can play. Go get it or you will fall even further back in your hopeless race to be like me.


I think I know that guy, in an on-line, from a distance kind of way. Here's his recent blog as further evidence. http://paroleblazers.blogspot.com He knows me as EnglandDan and of my love of the Pogues.

How remastered are these releases?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:45 pm
by Paddy Garcia
If digital bits wore out I'd have had to buy a couple copies of these albums, so I'm not worried about the buying, but I am curious. The only thing I don't like about most of the Pogues recordings is that the volume is pretty compressed.

Do the new releases expand the range? Please?

Go raibh maith agat -
PG

Re: a review of the Fall From Grace CD from amazon.com

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:44 pm
by KathleenwithaK
I think I know that guy, in an on-line, from a distance kind of way. Here's his recent blog as further evidence. http://paroleblazers.blogspot.com He knows me as EnglandDan and of my love of the Pogues.


whew! the guy has issues

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:43 pm
by capo2nd
The glory 'If I Should Fall From Grace With God' has lies partly in the finish the original album has, which is Worms. Imagining those bonus tracks put after Worms ruins that glorious ending to a very round, solid work. But that's just my opinion probably.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:04 pm
by DzM
capo2nd wrote:The glory 'If I Should Fall From Grace With God' has lies partly in the finish the original album has, which is Worms.
I've tried to talk Andrew into bringing this track back to the live set. Unfortunately I think he thinks I'm being mean-spirited. :(

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:03 pm
by capo2nd
DzM wrote:
capo2nd wrote:The glory 'If I Should Fall From Grace With God' has lies partly in the finish the original album has, which is Worms.
I've tried to talk Andrew into bringing this track back to the live set. Unfortunately I think he thinks I'm being mean-spirited. :(

I'd love to hear that at Brixton this year. Same goes for Boys From County Hell. I don't understand why they left it out last year.

Rhino Red Roses Reissue (hows that for alliteration?)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:51 pm
by Scott
I was wondering if the rhino version of red roses includes the lyrics, unlike the UK reissue, as that would be a good reason to buy it when i already have the uk version.

thanks

Re: Rhino Red Roses Reissue (hows that for alliteration?)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:14 pm
by philipchevron
Scott wrote:I was wondering if the rhino version of red roses includes the lyrics, unlike the UK reissue, as that would be a good reason to buy it when i already have the uk version.

thanks


Apart from the logos, repaired typos, missing credits etc, the Rhino issues are identical to the WSM editions.

Re: a review of the Fall From Grace CD from amazon.com

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:48 am
by dj_evol_eno
philipchevron wrote:Not just a pretty face

One could look at the cover of this album and dismiss the Pogues as yet another super cute boy band that the chicks would go nuts nuts for. Unlike N'Sync and New Kids, these guys can play their instruments really good. They don't dance near as well as the backsteet boys, but I don't think they care...



I'm sorry I missed this one when it first went around...funniest review and forum postings i've read in a while. And P.C. is the dancing one! (The uncloseted dancing one!?) :wink: