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One lyric that always sounded corny to me ...

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Post Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:29 am

Cornish Andy wrote:I think the worst line has to be "I'm just a wally hanging out on Pattaya Beach". Can you really hear Shane calling anyone a 'wally'?! I've always wondered if the record company suggested they changed it from something else in case the song ever got released as a single.


Who you callin' a "worst line?"

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Post Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:25 pm

Maybe a bit late, but I want to put in another vote of support for "friends" in the line from "Dark Streets..."
It's just right. As Mr C says, it sings better than mates, chums, pals or whatever else would scan. And I'm sure back in those days in London I used to have drinking friends down the pub... the ones I wasn't allowed to bring back home.
And there are enough literary/cultural instances of "friend" being used in that slightly distant, noncommittal sense (which I'm sure Shane was aware of...)
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Post Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:19 pm

I think the line "drink with my friends on hammersmith broadway" isn't meant to be taken like that. I've always thought it was an ironic take on 'friends' as it is clearly a song about down and outs and drunks in London. Therefore to call fellow-drunks 'my friends' is another example of shanes ironic soh.

yes / no?
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Post Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:22 pm

guestov wrote:I think the line "drink with my friends on hammersmith broadway" isn't meant to be taken like that. I've always thought it was an ironic take on 'friends' as it is clearly a song about down and outs and drunks in London. Therefore to call fellow-drunks 'my friends' is another example of shanes ironic soh.

yes / no?


I'm going with this one, as it reminds me of the Brendan Behan remark "the compliments pass when the quality meets"
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Post Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:43 pm

guestov wrote:I think the line "drink with my friends on hammersmith broadway" isn't meant to be taken like that. I've always thought it was an ironic take on 'friends' as it is clearly a song about down and outs and drunks in London. Therefore to call fellow-drunks 'my friends' is another example of shanes ironic soh.

yes / no?



Think you hit the nail on the head there. :wink:
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Post Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:53 pm

guestov wrote:I think the line "drink with my friends on hammersmith broadway" isn't meant to be taken like that. I've always thought it was an ironic take on 'friends' as it is clearly a song about down and outs and drunks in London. Therefore to call fellow-drunks 'my friends' is another example of shanes ironic soh.

yes / no?


yes, definitely!
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Post Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:14 am

Glad some of you agree with my analysis of DSOL!

Speaking of lyrics and such-like, has any of you ever used words or phrases learned in pogues songs in an everday context?? I regularly use the term 'drilled her up' if a young local lad gets a young local lass pregnant! :P I also use pisskey quite a bit to describe a particular state of being after spending too long in the bosom of my favourite boozer!! :roll:

I dont' have a least favourite line as such, but I think some of the Crock of Gold offerings are a bit on the, erm, patchy side......
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Post Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:09 pm

DzM wrote:
Monreith2 wrote:Anyway It's sounds alright if you refer to your childhood friends as 'my friends', but sounds a little awkward in the context of reminiscing about drinking buddies.


You mean it sounds a little awkward in Newfoundland!!!!!! It doesn't in the city that the song is about. Inevitably, the phrase has different connatations in Newfoundland in 2005 than it did in London in the early eighties.


A wise man once said about Britain and America: 'We are divided by a common language' :idea:
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Post Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:56 pm

Love to hear Dark Streets Of London this time around, one of my favourites. :D
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Post Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:40 pm

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DzM wrote:You mean it sounds a little awkward in Newfoundland!!!!!! It doesn't in the city that the song is about. Inevitably, the phrase has different connatations in Newfoundland in 2005 than it did in London in the early eighties.
A wise man once said about Britain and America: 'We are divided by a common language' :idea:
Well yeah. We are indeed seperated by that darned common language.

But what the hell? I never said the quoted material that is attributed to me. I agree with the sentiment, but those aren't my words at all. I can't een find whose words they are.

I'm going to bet money that this is a quote tag gone horribly awry and that Guest was actually replying to Monreith, got the quote tags a bit messed up, and ended up writing their own text such that it appears to be a mis-attributed quote. Yeah.
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Post Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:29 pm

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DzM wrote:
Monreith2 wrote:Anyway It's sounds alright if you refer to your childhood friends as 'my friends', but sounds a little awkward in the context of reminiscing about drinking buddies.


You mean it sounds a little awkward in Newfoundland!!!!!! It doesn't in the city that the song is about. Inevitably, the phrase has different connatations in Newfoundland in 2005 than it did in London in the early eighties.


A wise man once said about Britain and America: 'We are divided by a common language' :idea:




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Post Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:57 pm

DzM wrote:
I'm going to bet money that this is a quote tag gone horribly awry and that Guest was actually replying to Monreith, got the quote tags a bit messed up, and ended up writing their own text such that it appears to be a mis-attributed quote. Yeah.


umm yes I think that's what happened! :shock:
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Post Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:54 am

Since English isn´t my first language, I´m not sure if get all the different connotations in words like "friends" as opposed to "mates". I can see the difference but I didn´t know that "friends" is what kids use.

Anyway, this line in A Rainy Night in Soho has always sounded a little forced to me:

Now the song is nearly over
We may never find out what it means


It´s a great song and the line works fine, but it sounds like he didn´t bother to think of a better lyric and just wrote something...

Are you going to burn me in a pyre now that I´ve said it? 8)
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Post Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:04 pm

Maybe Shane ment that different people take different things from same songs.
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Post Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:27 pm

John Powers wrote:Since English isn´t my first language, I´m not sure if get all the different connotations in words like "friends" as opposed to "mates". I can see the difference but I didn´t know that "friends" is what kids use.

Anyway, this line in A Rainy Night in Soho has always sounded a little forced to me:

Now the song is nearly over
We may never find out what it means


It´s a great song and the line works fine, but it sounds like he didn´t bother to think of a better lyric and just wrote something...

Are you going to burn me in a pyre now that I´ve said it? 8)


yeah, ive always felt the same about that line
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