NW3

[TheKing]

Was just listening to the Falconer Demos and this seems to be perhaps the strongest song out of all of them so I was just wondering why it wasnt included on Hells Ditch? Can anyone shed any light on this?

[philipchevron]

We recorded it for HELL'S DITCH. Shane never got around to putting a vocal on it.

[Zuzana]

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[TheKing]

Cheers for the info on that! I can't believe MacGowan could did not record a vocal track for that song. Maybe if the pogues ever did make a 'new' record this would be a possible contender to be on it? Also the Pogues version of Donegal Express, from a live recording I heard, sounds far far stronger than The Popes version. I think it would be acceptable to do this as the Popes recorded a version of 'Rake At The Gates Of Hell' after The Pogues had already done it.

[bfg]

NW3 was recorded, although with altered lyrics as Mother Mo Chroi (think I spelled that right) on Crock of Gold. The version on the Falconer Demos is much better though. I thought the best song Shane did with the Popes was Aisling but overall the pogues material is much better. Actually, maybe not better, just differnt, more traditional. Popes are a little more rock and Shane's vocal obviously were not as strong.

[Phil]

If Shane had ever finished a lead vocal for NW3 it would have made it past anyone else's songwriting contribution, no contest. The fact is, he didn't, for reasons known only to himself. There is a good vocal on the Falconer Demo but the overall sound on those demos was not in the same class as the Hell'S Ditch material - for which the backing track of NW3 WAS in fact recorded. If the demo had passed muster with the overall feel of Hell's Ditch, I feel sure we would have included it.

Shane has always had some revisionist pleasure out of demonising the rest of us for any number of perceived evils and slights. In fact, the majority of apparently egregious mysteries were of his own making, as was the case with NW3, which we all thought was one of his best ever songs.

It is nice to hear this song on The Falconer Demos but will we ever hear a remastered version of this lost classic for the box set Mr Chevron?

[philipchevron]

If Shane had ever finished a lead vocal for NW3 it would have made it past anyone else's songwriting contribution, no contest. The fact is, he didn't, for reasons known only to himself. There is a good vocal on the Falconer Demo but the overall sound on those demos was not in the same class as the Hell'S Ditch material - for which the backing track of NW3 WAS in fact recorded. If the demo had passed muster with the overall feel of Hell's Ditch, I feel sure we would have included it.

Shane has always had some revisionist pleasure out of demonising the rest of us for any number of perceived evils and slights. In fact, the majority of apparently egregious mysteries were of his own making, as was the case with NW3, which we all thought was one of his best ever songs.

It is nice to hear this song on The Falconer Demos but will we ever hear a remastered version of this lost classic for the box set Mr Chevron?

Well yes, quite likely, but it would still be the Falconer version as it's the only complete one.

[Christine]

Shane has always had some revisionist pleasure out of demonising the rest of us for any number of perceived evils and slights. In fact, the majority of apparently egregious mysteries were of his own making, as was the case with NW3, which we all thought was one of his best ever songs.

It is nice to hear this song on The Falconer Demos but will we ever hear a remastered version of this lost classic for the box set Mr Chevron?

Well yes, quite likely, but it would still be the Falconer version as it's the only complete one.

Great! Definitely looking forward to that one!

[Phil]

If Shane had ever finished a lead vocal for NW3 it would have made it past anyone else's songwriting contribution, no contest. The fact is, he didn't, for reasons known only to himself. There is a good vocal on the Falconer Demo but the overall sound on those demos was not in the same class as the Hell'S Ditch material - for which the backing track of NW3 WAS in fact recorded. If the demo had passed muster with the overall feel of Hell's Ditch, I feel sure we would have included it.

Shane has always had some revisionist pleasure out of demonising the rest of us for any number of perceived evils and slights. In fact, the majority of apparently egregious mysteries were of his own making, as was the case with NW3, which we all thought was one of his best ever songs.

It is nice to hear this song on The Falconer Demos but will we ever hear a remastered version of this lost classic for the box set Mr Chevron?

Well yes, quite likely, but it would still be the Falconer version as it's the only complete one.

Fantastic Mr Chevron!!! I am looking forward to hearing that remastered. You're the best. Thanks for the info.

[Eckhard]

I think "NW3" would be the perfect single to support the release of the box set.

[Phil]

I think "NW3" would be the perfect single to support the release of the box set.

Agreed.

[Candy]

What a fab idea. A "new" Pogues single!!!

[Guest]

unfortuna tely Shane misses or mumbles half the lyrics on the demo.

[theholyspook]

NW3 is a great song but for a single release I would love to see the single release of Freeborn Man of the Travelling People. I think it would be a lovely tribute to Joe and Christy and there is a great version of it...

[Eckhard]

NW3 is a great song but for a single release I would love to see the single release of Freeborn Man of the Travelling People. I think it would be a lovely tribute to Joe and Christy and there is a great version of it...

They did "Freeborn Man of the Travelling People"!?!?


Wow. Never heard of that before...