by DzM Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:04 pm
firehazard wrote:NewJerseyRich wrote:Love for the country would have been never subjecting her to the shackles of the EU from the start. Once realising the situation it takes strength to correct and extricate ones self from the situation.
And Xenophobia is a wholly left term.
Ooh, it's just like reading the Murdoch press. Strange, that.
Meanwhile, after approximately 70 years in which the "shackles" of the EU have helped ensure peace between the nations of Europe, and three days after the UK government finally got around to sending the Article 50 notice stating their intention to leave, a former leader of the Tory party started talking about the prospect of going to war with Spain. That all escalated more speedily than even a pinko commie liberal lefty like me had imagined.
I'd thought that the Brexiteers were intent on taking the country back to the 1930s. But maybe in reality they're aiming for the sixteenth century...
Well, to paraphrase
Mike from Boston, NJR hasn't lived on a continent that suffered through two world-wars in less than 40 years, and centuries of needless wars before that. He may not really understand the desire of that continent to tie the prosperity of all the members-states together such that it no longer makes economic or cultural sense to wage stupid wars against each other.
I'm actually really curious how NJR's nationalistic view of things is able to reconcile all the benefits the states in the USofA get from being federated, but would also argue against the nations of Europe trying to federate together in the same way. Why should the USofA benefit from a single currency, free movement from state-to-state, a common set of trade rules, a shared defense, etc? Why should Europe (or Africa, or Asia, or Oceania, or any other continental region) not try to recognize the same benefits derived from the regional powers working together to establish common interests while delegating local authority to the sub-regions (whether they're called states, countries, areas of economic development, districts, or some other euphemism for "smaller state within a state")?
[quote="firehazard"][quote="NewJerseyRich"]Love for the country would have been never subjecting her to the shackles of the EU from the start. Once realising the situation it takes strength to correct and extricate ones self from the situation.
And Xenophobia is a wholly left term.[/quote]
Ooh, it's just like reading the Murdoch press. Strange, that.
Meanwhile, after approximately 70 years in which the "shackles" of the EU have helped ensure peace between the nations of Europe, and three days after the UK government finally got around to sending the Article 50 notice stating their intention to leave, a former leader of the Tory party started talking about the prospect of going to war with Spain. That all escalated more speedily than even a pinko commie liberal lefty like me had imagined.
I'd thought that the Brexiteers were intent on taking the country back to the 1930s. But maybe in reality they're aiming for the sixteenth century...[/quote]
Well, to paraphrase [i]Mike from Boston[/i], NJR hasn't lived on a continent that suffered through two world-wars in less than 40 years, and centuries of needless wars before that. He may not really understand the desire of that continent to tie the prosperity of all the members-states together such that it no longer makes economic or cultural sense to wage stupid wars against each other.
I'm actually really curious how NJR's nationalistic view of things is able to reconcile all the benefits the states in the USofA get from being federated, but would also argue against the nations of Europe trying to federate together in the same way. Why should the USofA benefit from a single currency, free movement from state-to-state, a common set of trade rules, a shared defense, etc? Why should Europe (or Africa, or Asia, or Oceania, or any other continental region) not try to recognize the same benefits derived from the regional powers working together to establish common interests while delegating local authority to the sub-regions (whether they're called states, countries, areas of economic development, districts, or some other euphemism for "smaller state within a state")?
