by philipchevron Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:38 am
Guest wrote:"Are there any Priests in tonight?" pause......... "Good, we don't want a criminal element at our gigs"
Of course it was supposed to be a lighthearted joke! But it sounds like a hate speech.
Replace "priests" with "faggots" or "blacks", is it still funny?
Any priest is a criminal?!
"Let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out"
The Priesthood in Ireland, the so-called pastoral leadership of 4.5 million people, colluded for decades in the cover up and even downright denial of the rape and sexual abuse of several generations of Irish children. Their Bishops, the so-called Princes of the Church are
even now refusing to acknowledge that far from confronting the issue and bringing the full force of the law to bear on these evil paedophiles, they routinely, as a matter of policy, moved them on to another parish or another county - in the case of hopeless repeat offenders, another
country - where the rape could continue with impunity on yet
another set of innocent children.
The Papal Nuncio in Ireland, the Vatican's chief diplomat has behaved throughout the now serial investigations with a high-handed arrogance which beggars belief. This corrupt and satanic organisation, the Catholic Church, currently has its previous head honcho, Pope John Paul II, on the fast track for "sainthood". This is a man who deliberately refused to address the problem in his lifetime. His point of view, which trickled all the way down to and was adopted by the lowliest young curate, was that nothing was more important than the credibility and "sanctity" of Holy Mother Church, not even the endemic and institutionalised rape of children. As recently as last week in Ireland, yet another young man, aged 37, took his own life in despair at how the edifice of his Faith and his Humanity had crumbled to ashes.
As long as the clerics of the Catholic Church, in full knowledge of this satanic cult of child abuse, allowed it to continue without resort to law, Divine or Secular - take your pick - as long as they had the sheer
gall to quote their spiritual figurehead Jesus Christ at his most tender - "suffer the little children to come unto me" while all this was happening under their noses, then yes, I call these men criminals. Were there "good" Nazis who surreptitiously aided Jews to get to safety in the 1930s? Of course there were. But I'd be surprised if the Irish Catholic Church could produce more than 100 men of the cloth who either genuinely didn't know this was going on or who attempted, against the odds, to challenge this malevolent cult in any meaningful way. The best that can be said about the
best of them is that they felt too cowed by ecclesiastical authority to shout
"Fire!"So "Guest", I'm sorry you misunderstood my remarks to be "a lighthearted joke" or in some way "funny", as I can assure you, in my opinion, and indeed in the opinion of the overwhelming majority of my fellow Irishmen and Irishwomen this week, in the wake of the publication of the Murphy report, the judicial sentence has not yet been invented which could see these Priests, their Bishops, their Cardinals and their Popes called to account for their crimes.
Get back to me when the vast majority of "blacks" and "faggots" are held culpable of misdeeds and the suppression of misdeeds on this scale and we'll have that moral equivalence debate you seem keen to engage in.
Hate speech? Bet your ass, buddy.
[quote="Guest"][quote]"Are there any Priests in tonight?" pause......... "Good, we don't want a criminal element at our gigs"[/quote]
Of course it was supposed to be a lighthearted joke! But it sounds like a hate speech.
Replace "priests" with "faggots" or "blacks", is it still funny?
Any priest is a criminal?!
[i]"Let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out"[/i][/quote]
The Priesthood in Ireland, the so-called pastoral leadership of 4.5 million people, colluded for decades in the cover up and even downright denial of the rape and sexual abuse of several generations of Irish children. Their Bishops, the so-called Princes of the Church are [i]even now[/i] refusing to acknowledge that far from confronting the issue and bringing the full force of the law to bear on these evil paedophiles, they routinely, as a matter of policy, moved them on to another parish or another county - in the case of hopeless repeat offenders, another [i]country[/i] - where the rape could continue with impunity on yet [i]another[/i] set of innocent children.
The Papal Nuncio in Ireland, the Vatican's chief diplomat has behaved throughout the now serial investigations with a high-handed arrogance which beggars belief. This corrupt and satanic organisation, the Catholic Church, currently has its previous head honcho, Pope John Paul II, on the fast track for "sainthood". This is a man who deliberately refused to address the problem in his lifetime. His point of view, which trickled all the way down to and was adopted by the lowliest young curate, was that nothing was more important than the credibility and "sanctity" of Holy Mother Church, not even the endemic and institutionalised rape of children. As recently as last week in Ireland, yet another young man, aged 37, took his own life in despair at how the edifice of his Faith and his Humanity had crumbled to ashes.
As long as the clerics of the Catholic Church, in full knowledge of this satanic cult of child abuse, allowed it to continue without resort to law, Divine or Secular - take your pick - as long as they had the sheer [i]gall[/i] to quote their spiritual figurehead Jesus Christ at his most tender - "suffer the little children to come unto me" while all this was happening under their noses, then yes, I call these men criminals. Were there "good" Nazis who surreptitiously aided Jews to get to safety in the 1930s? Of course there were. But I'd be surprised if the Irish Catholic Church could produce more than 100 men of the cloth who either genuinely didn't know this was going on or who attempted, against the odds, to challenge this malevolent cult in any meaningful way. The best that can be said about the [i]best[/i] of them is that they felt too cowed by ecclesiastical authority to shout [i]"Fire!"[/i]
So "Guest", I'm sorry you misunderstood my remarks to be "a lighthearted joke" or in some way "funny", as I can assure you, in my opinion, and indeed in the opinion of the overwhelming majority of my fellow Irishmen and Irishwomen this week, in the wake of the publication of the Murphy report, the judicial sentence has not yet been invented which could see these Priests, their Bishops, their Cardinals and their Popes called to account for their crimes.
Get back to me when the vast majority of "blacks" and "faggots" are held culpable of misdeeds and the suppression of misdeeds on this scale and we'll have that moral equivalence debate you seem keen to engage in.
Hate speech? Bet your ass, buddy.