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Re: What are the chances of any NEW pogues material

Post by RICHB Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:00 am

Ha ha just clicked on the link soulfinger. Very good
Ha ha just clicked on the link soulfinger. Very good
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Re: What are the chances of any NEW pogues material

Post by RICHB Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:59 am

I was only playing. It was a toss up between me posting that or is Shane still with the band ha ha
I was only playing. It was a toss up between me posting that or is Shane still with the band ha ha
  • Quote soulfinger

Re: WHATS THE CHANCE OF NEW MATERIAL

Post by soulfinger Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:52 am

I don't think there's much chance. We used to get our new material here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bus_stop/116315383/
I don't think there's much chance. We used to get our new material here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bus_stop/116315383/
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WHATS THE CHANCE OF NEW MATERIAL

Post by RICHB Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:44 am

Sorry couldnt help myself I was bored ha ha ha :D :D :D :D :wink: Mornin all
Sorry couldnt help myself I was bored ha ha ha :D :D :D :D :wink: Mornin all
  • Quote Mike M

Re: What are the chances of any NEW pogues material

Post by Mike M Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:29 am

As always, Philip, I continue to be thankful for your honest, insightful and often hilarious responses, even to questions that I'm sure you're sick of answering!
As always, Philip, I continue to be thankful for your honest, insightful and often hilarious responses, even to questions that I'm sure you're sick of answering!
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: new music

Post by philipchevron Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:58 pm

Eckhard wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.



I would love to hear them. What about those laminated ( word? ) papers with they lyrics on it he used in 2008? He should be able to remember the melody, shouldn't he. I mean, he made at least two songs out of NW3.


Certain members of the band refuse, understandably, to go on stage with laminated sheets of paper. The issue is not so much Shane remembering the songs as Shane rehearsing the songs. With the band. He has always rather quixotically taken the view that "everybody" knows these songs backwards, but i think we'd all quite like to play them forwards instead.
[quote="Eckhard"][quote="philipchevron"]

Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.[/quote]


I would love to hear them. What about those laminated ( word? ) papers with they lyrics on it he used in 2008? He should be able to remember the melody, shouldn't he. I mean, he made at least two songs out of NW3.[/quote]

Certain members of the band refuse, understandably, to go on stage with laminated sheets of paper. The issue is not so much Shane remembering the songs as Shane [i]rehearsing[/i] the songs. With the band. He has always rather quixotically taken the view that "everybody" knows these songs backwards, but i think we'd all quite like to play them [i]forwards[/i] instead.
  • Quote PADDYgoesDUTCH

Re: new music

Post by PADDYgoesDUTCH Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:36 pm

philipchevron wrote:Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.


;-)
[quote="philipchevron"]Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.[/quote]

;-)
  • Quote Mick Molloy

Re: new music

Post by Mick Molloy Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:29 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Eckhard wrote:More than about newly recorded music I wondered about why some of the "new" stuff from the boxed set did not find it's way into the live shows. NW3 and "The Travelling People" would have been the obvious choice, imho.


Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.


Wasn't that the same problem with Kitty a few years back? I went mad when I first heard it then :D
[quote="philipchevron"][quote="Eckhard"]More than about newly recorded music I wondered about why some of the "new" stuff from the boxed set did not find it's way into the live shows. NW3 and "The Travelling People" would have been the obvious choice, imho.[/quote]

Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.[/quote]

Wasn't that the same problem with Kitty a few years back? I went mad when I first heard it then :D
  • Quote Eckhard

Re: new music

Post by Eckhard Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:28 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.



I would love to hear them. What about those laminated ( word? ) papers with they lyrics on it he used in 2008? He should be able to remember the melody, shouldn't he. I mean, he made at least two songs out of NW3.
[quote="philipchevron"]

Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.[/quote]


I would love to hear them. What about those laminated ( word? ) papers with they lyrics on it he used in 2008? He should be able to remember the melody, shouldn't he. I mean, he made at least two songs out of NW3.
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: new music

Post by philipchevron Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:58 pm

Eckhard wrote:More than about newly recorded music I wondered about why some of the "new" stuff from the boxed set did not find it's way into the live shows. NW3 and "The Travelling People" would have been the obvious choice, imho.


Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.
[quote="Eckhard"]More than about newly recorded music I wondered about why some of the "new" stuff from the boxed set did not find it's way into the live shows. NW3 and "The Travelling People" would have been the obvious choice, imho.[/quote]

Both titles were certainly at the top of a shortlist a few months ago. Getting the singer into the same time-space continuum as the rest of the band for anything resembling a rehearsal continues to be a hazardous, many would say fruitless, task, which is not to say the singer is not full of good intentions.
  • Quote Eckhard

Re: new music

Post by Eckhard Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:29 pm

More than about newly recorded music I wondered about why some of the "new" stuff from the boxed set did not find it's way into the live shows. NW3 and "The Travelling People" would have been the obvious choice, imho.
More than about newly recorded music I wondered about why some of the "new" stuff from the boxed set did not find it's way into the live shows. NW3 and "The Travelling People" would have been the obvious choice, imho.
  • Quote PADDYgoesDUTCH

Re: new music

Post by PADDYgoesDUTCH Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:10 am

[quote="philipchevron
Well, it might be worth considering that the time we spend together as The Pogues, much as we enjoy it, has come to take up a relatively small portion of our lives: most of us have other things going on in our musical/artistic lives which more than fulfill our creative impulses. Even if not all our non-Pogues projects see daylight, they do tend to take priority in our working lives. The only thing that would change that equation, realistically, would be a batch of new Shane MacGowan songs in a fairly advanced state of completion, but as these do not appear to be forthcoming, we don't trouble over it.[/quote]

thanks again for responding in the first place, Philip, and many a fair point made and taken again,
so I gladly settle for the many clasics you guys will have on offer in Münster and Amsterdam

take care
[quote="philipchevron
Well, it might be worth considering that the time we spend together as The Pogues, much as we enjoy it, has come to take up a relatively small portion of our lives: most of us have other things going on in our musical/artistic lives which more than fulfill our creative impulses. Even if not all our non-Pogues projects see daylight, they do tend to take priority in our working lives. The only thing that would change that equation, realistically, would be a batch of new Shane MacGowan songs in a fairly advanced state of completion, but as these do not appear to be forthcoming, we don't trouble over it.[/quote]

thanks again for responding in the first place, Philip, and many a fair point made and taken again,
so I gladly settle for the many clasics you guys will have on offer in Münster and Amsterdam

take care
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: new music

Post by philipchevron Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:07 am

PADDYgoesDUTCH wrote:
philipchevron wrote:But we're not sick of the old ones yet.


Fair point, Philip, neither am I, no worries there.
I'll love 'The Pogues forever without new songs too.

But you guys are of the creative kind, aren't you?
Don't you ever sit around, playing an instrument
or playing with words,
thinking 'hell yeah, that might become a cool song'?

I admire both the drive and the talent of creative people,
and assume both the drive and the talent are still there,
aren't they?

Then again, if fed up by this topic, let it go.

Looking forward to the Münster and Amsterdam gigs,
thanks for dropping by,

yours, Andries


Well, it might be worth considering that the time we spend together as The Pogues, much as we enjoy it, has come to take up a relatively small portion of our lives: most of us have other things going on in our musical/artistic lives which more than fulfill our creative impulses. Even if not all our non-Pogues projects see daylight, they do tend to take priority in our working lives. The only thing that would change that equation, realistically, would be a batch of new Shane MacGowan songs in a fairly advanced state of completion, but as these do not appear to be forthcoming, we don't trouble over it.
[quote="PADDYgoesDUTCH"][quote="philipchevron"]But we're not sick of the old ones yet.[/quote]

Fair point, Philip, neither am I, no worries there.
I'll love 'The Pogues forever without new songs too.

But you guys are of the creative kind, aren't you?
Don't you ever sit around, playing an instrument
or playing with words,
thinking 'hell yeah, that might become a cool song'?

I admire both the drive and the talent of creative people,
and assume both the drive and the talent are still there,
aren't they?

Then again, if fed up by this topic, let it go.

Looking forward to the Münster and Amsterdam gigs,
thanks for dropping by,

yours, Andries[/quote]

Well, it might be worth considering that the time we spend together as The Pogues, much as we enjoy it, has come to take up a relatively small portion of our lives: most of us have other things going on in our musical/artistic lives which more than fulfill our creative impulses. Even if not all our non-Pogues projects see daylight, they do tend to take priority in our working lives. The only thing that would change that equation, realistically, would be a batch of new Shane MacGowan songs in a fairly advanced state of completion, but as these do not appear to be forthcoming, we don't trouble over it.
  • Quote PADDYgoesDUTCH

Re: new music

Post by PADDYgoesDUTCH Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:23 am

philipchevron wrote:But we're not sick of the old ones yet.


Fair point, Philip, neither am I, no worries there.
I'll love 'The Pogues forever without new songs too.

But you guys are of the creative kind, aren't you?
Don't you ever sit around, playing an instrument
or playing with words,
thinking 'hell yeah, that might become a cool song'?

I admire both the drive and the talent of creative people,
and assume both the drive and the talent are still there,
aren't they?

Then again, if fed up by this topic, let it go.

Looking forward to the Münster and Amsterdam gigs,
thanks for dropping by,

yours, Andries
[quote="philipchevron"]But we're not sick of the old ones yet.[/quote]

Fair point, Philip, neither am I, no worries there.
I'll love 'The Pogues forever without new songs too.

But you guys are of the creative kind, aren't you?
Don't you ever sit around, playing an instrument
or playing with words,
thinking 'hell yeah, that might become a cool song'?

I admire both the drive and the talent of creative people,
and assume both the drive and the talent are still there,
aren't they?

Then again, if fed up by this topic, let it go.

Looking forward to the Münster and Amsterdam gigs,
thanks for dropping by,

yours, Andries
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: new music

Post by philipchevron Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:07 am

Mike M wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
PADDYgoesDUTCH wrote:that might add to the shows, but would certainly add to listening pleasure in general,
kinda hard to imagine that such a bunch of fine musicians cannot find new tunes to play


But we're not sick of the old ones yet.


Philip, on a slightly less irreverent note, do you (or other members of the band) find it at all encouraging that fans still wish for new music from you? It seems like the fans of so many acts that have been around as long as The Pogues are content to only want to hear the old stuff, and in fact often shun newer work. I'm sure you get sick of being asked about it, and that's understandable after a point, but I guess I'm curious about your take on the constant requests for it.


When I say I haven't given it much thought, I don't mean that to seem arrogant or uncaring. It's terrific that people want to hear your music, old or new, but the truth is, the only music we have is the music that exists. It's very difficult to conceive of how people respond to hypothetical music you haven't written yet. I know that is not precisely your question, but that is nevertheless the way my mind processes it. That said, in the spirit of your enquiry, am I pleased that the Pogues fan is smarter than the average bear? For sure.
[quote="Mike M"][quote="philipchevron"][quote="PADDYgoesDUTCH"]that might add to the shows, but would certainly add to listening pleasure in general,
kinda hard to imagine that such a bunch of fine musicians cannot find new tunes to play[/quote]

But we're not sick of the old ones yet.[/quote]

Philip, on a slightly less irreverent note, do you (or other members of the band) find it at all encouraging that fans still wish for new music from you? It seems like the fans of so many acts that have been around as long as The Pogues are content to only want to hear the old stuff, and in fact often shun newer work. I'm sure you get sick of being asked about it, and that's understandable after a point, but I guess I'm curious about your take on the constant requests for it.[/quote]

When I say I haven't given it much thought, I don't mean that to seem arrogant or uncaring. It's terrific that people want to hear your music, old or new, but the truth is, the only music we have is the music that exists. It's very difficult to conceive of how people respond to hypothetical music you haven't written yet. I know that is not precisely your question, but that is nevertheless the way my mind processes it. That said, in the spirit of your enquiry, am I pleased that the Pogues fan is smarter than the average bear? For sure.

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