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  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: San Patricio

Post by RoddyRuddy Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:36 pm

http://www.rock-n-reel.co.uk/latest.cfm

New issue [March / April ] of Rock n Reel R2 mag. has a article on the new cd
http://www.rock-n-reel.co.uk/latest.cfm

New issue [March / April ] of Rock n Reel R2 mag. has a article on the new cd
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: San Patricio

Post by RoddyRuddy Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:56 pm

http://thechieftains.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6KnV7J1NBk

Some behind the scene footage of the Chieftains
http://thechieftains.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6KnV7J1NBk

Some behind the scene footage of the Chieftains
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: San Patricio

Post by RoddyRuddy Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:00 pm

Street Dogs - San Patricios

Two hundred Irish go into Mexico
To fight a battle of manifest destiny
Driven by their Catholic conscience
They chose to rise and do what's right
Joined up with the natives for the fight

Confused then torn by aggression
Born against a sovereign land
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios

Sick and tired of the anglo abuse of might
And of following orders from a bent U.S. regime
They joined ranks with the Mexican army
Red headed ones led by Johny riley
When you stand behind your principles
You never lose

Confused then torn by aggression
Born against a sovereign land
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios

Fight with Riley fierce and wild

Mirar aqui Rudy

Churubusco de el 72
No queridos en la corte marcial
50 colgados, 16 madriados
Portrados como trydores
Grito para ellos, grito para todos
Parados nunca calleron

So we celebrate Irish and Mexican unity
It was forged with blood during manifest destiny

Confused then torn by aggression
Born against a sovereign land
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios

Led by Riley fierce and wild
They paid highest price

El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios


Mike McColgan, former lead singer of The Dropkick Murphys on lead vocal
Street Dogs - San Patricios

Two hundred Irish go into Mexico
To fight a battle of manifest destiny
Driven by their Catholic conscience
They chose to rise and do what's right
Joined up with the natives for the fight

Confused then torn by aggression
Born against a sovereign land
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios

Sick and tired of the anglo abuse of might
And of following orders from a bent U.S. regime
They joined ranks with the Mexican army
Red headed ones led by Johny riley
When you stand behind your principles
You never lose

Confused then torn by aggression
Born against a sovereign land
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios

Fight with Riley fierce and wild

Mirar aqui Rudy

Churubusco de el 72
No queridos en la corte marcial
50 colgados, 16 madriados
Portrados como trydores
Grito para ellos, grito para todos
Parados nunca calleron

So we celebrate Irish and Mexican unity
It was forged with blood during manifest destiny

Confused then torn by aggression
Born against a sovereign land
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios

Led by Riley fierce and wild
They paid highest price

El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios
El Battalion, El Battalion de San Patricios


Mike McColgan, former lead singer of The Dropkick Murphys on lead vocal
  • Quote Low D

Re: San Patricio

Post by Low D Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:18 am

There's some content about this, if i recall, in "a people's history of the united states" by the late howard zinn.

thanks for the tip, this looks good!
There's some content about this, if i recall, in "a people's history of the united states" by the late howard zinn.

thanks for the tip, this looks good!
  • Quote BelfastsLittlesHobo

Re: San Patricio

Post by BelfastsLittlesHobo Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:49 am

I will definitely be checking this out. cheers Charlie W
I will definitely be checking this out. cheers Charlie W
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: San Patricio

Post by philipchevron Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:49 pm

RoddyRuddy wrote:Charlie OBrien - Pa’ Los Del San Patricio
47 too long a year, men died in chains men died in fear
some were lost under Irish sky and some on Mexico’s fields were hung.
The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.

47 too dark a year, men shook their chains and fell in fear
from Vera Cruz a flag unfurled many men rallied round it.
A Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

Birds wouldn’t cross the Pedragal through it General Lee he carved a path
Valencia’s army were routed there Churubusco’s fate was calling.
The Yankees tumbled through high corn at Churubusco we shot them down
Mexican guns they soon gave out with bayonets we joined the slaughter.

Three times the white flag swung round three times O’Riley pulled it down
when blood ran down into the sand only then did they surrender.
The Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
Shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
Hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.


Hmm. All due respect to a friend and fellow artist, but I think I like this better than Larry Kirwan's bitching about being called a "Papist"
[quote="RoddyRuddy"]Charlie OBrien - Pa’ Los Del San Patricio
47 too long a year, men died in chains men died in fear
some were lost under Irish sky and some on Mexico’s fields were hung.
The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.

47 too dark a year, men shook their chains and fell in fear
from Vera Cruz a flag unfurled many men rallied round it.
A Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

Birds wouldn’t cross the Pedragal through it General Lee he carved a path
Valencia’s army were routed there Churubusco’s fate was calling.
The Yankees tumbled through high corn at Churubusco we shot them down
Mexican guns they soon gave out with bayonets we joined the slaughter.

Three times the white flag swung round three times O’Riley pulled it down
when blood ran down into the sand only then did they surrender.
The Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
Shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
Hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.[/quote]

Hmm. All due respect to a friend and fellow artist, but I think I like this better than Larry Kirwan's bitching about being called a "Papist"
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: San Patricio

Post by RoddyRuddy Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:44 pm

Charlie OBrien - Pa’ Los Del San Patricio
47 too long a year, men died in chains men died in fear
some were lost under Irish sky and some on Mexico’s fields were hung.
The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.

47 too dark a year, men shook their chains and fell in fear
from Vera Cruz a flag unfurled many men rallied round it.
A Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

Birds wouldn’t cross the Pedragal through it General Lee he carved a path
Valencia’s army were routed there Churubusco’s fate was calling.
The Yankees tumbled through high corn at Churubusco we shot them down
Mexican guns they soon gave out with bayonets we joined the slaughter.

Three times the white flag swung round three times O’Riley pulled it down
when blood ran down into the sand only then did they surrender.
The Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
Shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
Hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.
Charlie OBrien - Pa’ Los Del San Patricio
47 too long a year, men died in chains men died in fear
some were lost under Irish sky and some on Mexico’s fields were hung.
The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.

47 too dark a year, men shook their chains and fell in fear
from Vera Cruz a flag unfurled many men rallied round it.
A Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

Birds wouldn’t cross the Pedragal through it General Lee he carved a path
Valencia’s army were routed there Churubusco’s fate was calling.
The Yankees tumbled through high corn at Churubusco we shot them down
Mexican guns they soon gave out with bayonets we joined the slaughter.

Three times the white flag swung round three times O’Riley pulled it down
when blood ran down into the sand only then did they surrender.
The Mexican eagle and a Celtic cross under the green flag men were lost
Shot down as soldiers, hung as slaves their cruel fate a shallow grave.

The gallows there 14 feet high two score men condemned to die
Hung at noon in scorching heat, three hours they waited bound hand and feet.
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: San Patricio

Post by RoddyRuddy Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:07 pm

http://www.thefenians.com/sounds/mp3/sanpatricios.m3u

http://www.thefenians.com/sounds/rpm/sanpatricios.rpm
http://www.thefenians.com/sounds/mp3/sanpatricios.m3u

http://www.thefenians.com/sounds/rpm/sanpatricios.rpm
  • Quote Chucke

Re: San Patricio

Post by Chucke Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:45 pm

Is this San Patricio story where Rogue's March band get there name from ,[ Thats Joe Hurleys Rogues March of Joe Hurley & The Gents fame.]
Is this San Patricio story where Rogue's March band get there name from ,[ Thats Joe Hurleys Rogues March of Joe Hurley & The Gents fame.]
  • Quote Chucke

Re: San Patricio

Post by Chucke Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:30 pm

Music
•St Patrick's Battalion — by David RovicsDavid RovicsDavid Rovics is an indie singer/songwriter and grassroots political protestor from the United States. His music is most accurately described as protest-folk and concerns topical subjects such as the 2003 Iraq war, anti-globalization and social justice issues. Rovics is an outspoken critic of not...

•San Patricio Brigade — by Black 47Black 47Based in New York City, Black 47 is a Celtic rock band made up of Irish expatriates, formed in the Bronx by Larry Kirwan and Chris Byrne in 1989. Their name is derived from 1847, the worst year of the Great Irish Famine.-History:...
•The San Patricios — by The Fenians
•San Patricios — by Street DogsStreet DogsStreet Dogs are a punk rock band originally from Boston, Massachusetts. Among its ranks are Mike McColgan, former lead singer of The Dropkick Murphys, Johnny Rioux, Marcus Hollar, Tobe Bean III and Paul Rucker.-History:...
(State of Grace (album)State of Grace (album)State of Grace is the fourth album by the Street Dogs. It was released on July 8, 2008. It was produced by Ted Hutt and is the band's first album on Hellcat Records. It includes a cover of the The Skids' "Into the Valley"...
)•San Patricios — by Ollin
•Pa Los Del San Patricio — by Charlie O'Brien
•The Men That God Made Mad — by Niamh Parsons with Graham Dunne
•San Patricios — by The Plankrunners
•St Patrick's Battalion — by The Wakes
Music
•St Patrick's Battalion — by David RovicsDavid RovicsDavid Rovics is an indie singer/songwriter and grassroots political protestor from the United States. His music is most accurately described as protest-folk and concerns topical subjects such as the 2003 Iraq war, anti-globalization and social justice issues. Rovics is an outspoken critic of not...

•San Patricio Brigade — by Black 47Black 47Based in New York City, Black 47 is a Celtic rock band made up of Irish expatriates, formed in the Bronx by Larry Kirwan and Chris Byrne in 1989. Their name is derived from 1847, the worst year of the Great Irish Famine.-History:...
•The San Patricios — by The Fenians
•San Patricios — by Street DogsStreet DogsStreet Dogs are a punk rock band originally from Boston, Massachusetts. Among its ranks are Mike McColgan, former lead singer of The Dropkick Murphys, Johnny Rioux, Marcus Hollar, Tobe Bean III and Paul Rucker.-History:...
(State of Grace (album)State of Grace (album)State of Grace is the fourth album by the Street Dogs. It was released on July 8, 2008. It was produced by Ted Hutt and is the band's first album on Hellcat Records. It includes a cover of the The Skids' "Into the Valley"...
)•San Patricios — by Ollin
•Pa Los Del San Patricio — by Charlie O'Brien
•The Men That God Made Mad — by Niamh Parsons with Graham Dunne
•San Patricios — by The Plankrunners
•St Patrick's Battalion — by The Wakes
  • Quote TaLa

Re: San Patricio

Post by TaLa Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:25 pm

TaLa wrote:The Street Dogs cd State Of Grace has a track called San Patricios



As does the new The Wakes cd
[quote="TaLa"]The Street Dogs cd State Of Grace has a track called San Patricios[/quote]


As does the new The Wakes cd
  • Quote TaLa

Re: San Patricio

Post by TaLa Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:24 pm

The Street Dogs cd State Of Grace has a track called San Patricios
The Street Dogs cd State Of Grace has a track called San Patricios
  • Quote TaLa

Re: San Patricio

Post by TaLa Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:12 pm

Black 47 San Patricio Brigade Lyrics
I came to this country an innocent boy
From the green fields of galway
When the hunger was clawin' at me
Came for redemption, respect and regard
All i got was new masters
And a kick up the arse

Oh, they beat me and robbed me
On the streets of new york
When all that i wanted
Was an honest day's work
Saying "get up now, paddy,
You're an ignorant sort
Far worse than a beast
You won't do what you're told"

Oh, they spat at my crucifix
Laughed at my church
They called me a papist
And many things worse
I soaked up their insults
And i swore revenge
Send them know-nothing bastards
Straight back to hell

I joined up their army,
My fortune to make
But my captain was just another
Nativist snake
He beat me and starved me
Insulted my race
By the time i hit texas
I was ready to break

Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio
So far from your homeland
Carinos we miss you oh
Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio
We'll never forget you
We'll always remember
The san patricio brigade...

The mexican people
They treated us great
We danced at their weddings
And sang at their wakes
We fought in their battles
And where'er we'd go
Hiya le mad irish
San patricio

Oh, we fought the invader
And held him at bay
At the battle of san angel
And buena vista
If santa anna had not fled churabasco
We'd be chasing know-nothings
Up past ohio

Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio...

They took us prisoner
When our bullets ran out
And they tried us in
Their military court
Not a word 'bout oppression
Or baiting our race
My captain passed sentence
His eyes filled with hate

To death on the gallows
We would not bend our knee
So they murdered us
Far from galway's green fields
We fought for liberty
Defense of our creed
So to hell with know-nothings
Their kith, kin and seed

Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio...
Black 47 San Patricio Brigade Lyrics
I came to this country an innocent boy
From the green fields of galway
When the hunger was clawin' at me
Came for redemption, respect and regard
All i got was new masters
And a kick up the arse

Oh, they beat me and robbed me
On the streets of new york
When all that i wanted
Was an honest day's work
Saying "get up now, paddy,
You're an ignorant sort
Far worse than a beast
You won't do what you're told"

Oh, they spat at my crucifix
Laughed at my church
They called me a papist
And many things worse
I soaked up their insults
And i swore revenge
Send them know-nothing bastards
Straight back to hell

I joined up their army,
My fortune to make
But my captain was just another
Nativist snake
He beat me and starved me
Insulted my race
By the time i hit texas
I was ready to break

Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio
So far from your homeland
Carinos we miss you oh
Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio
We'll never forget you
We'll always remember
The san patricio brigade...

The mexican people
They treated us great
We danced at their weddings
And sang at their wakes
We fought in their battles
And where'er we'd go
Hiya le mad irish
San patricio

Oh, we fought the invader
And held him at bay
At the battle of san angel
And buena vista
If santa anna had not fled churabasco
We'd be chasing know-nothings
Up past ohio

Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio...

They took us prisoner
When our bullets ran out
And they tried us in
Their military court
Not a word 'bout oppression
Or baiting our race
My captain passed sentence
His eyes filled with hate

To death on the gallows
We would not bend our knee
So they murdered us
Far from galway's green fields
We fought for liberty
Defense of our creed
So to hell with know-nothings
Their kith, kin and seed

Hiya, le hiya
Oh, hey san patricio...
  • Quote RoddyRuddy1

Re: San Patricio

Post by RoddyRuddy1 Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:07 pm

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4982&p=71459&hilit=ollin#p71459

Thanks for the heads up Charlie on the cd. I was not aware The Chieftains had a new new cd out.
San Patricio story has had a mention on here before as Ollin sing a song about it and one of there cds in named after it .Check out the above link.Think DKM have also recorded a track about the San Patricio.
http://www.pogues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4982&p=71459&hilit=ollin#p71459

Thanks for the heads up Charlie on the cd. I was not aware The Chieftains had a new new cd out.
San Patricio story has had a mention on here before as Ollin sing a song about it and one of there cds in named after it .Check out the above link.Think DKM have also recorded a track about the San Patricio.
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: San Patricio

Post by philipchevron Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:32 am

Charlie W wrote:Anybody given the album "San Patricio" by The Chieftans featuring Ry Cooder a listen. It's a concept album about Irish American soldiers who switched sides in the Mexican-American War (1846-1848). Just sounded like a subject that could have appeared in a song on a Pogues album. It was a historical event I was unaware of?

Charlie


I have the album on order. Though it is undoubtedly an interesting subject and lends itself well to cross-cultural attention, Paddy Moloney is being a little disingenuous pretending he has just uncovered this corner of history. If there was a War, you can bet the Irish were there - on both sides! :)
[quote="Charlie W"]Anybody given the album "San Patricio" by The Chieftans featuring Ry Cooder a listen. It's a concept album about Irish American soldiers who switched sides in the Mexican-American War (1846-1848). Just sounded like a subject that could have appeared in a song on a Pogues album. It was a historical event I was unaware of?

Charlie[/quote]

I have the album on order. Though it is undoubtedly an interesting subject and lends itself well to cross-cultural attention, Paddy Moloney is being a little disingenuous pretending he has just uncovered this corner of history. If there was a War, you can bet the Irish were there - on [i]both[/i] sides! :)

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