LAST GIG WITH SHANE

by **Ciderman** Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:02 pm

Torfirion wrote:I am upping this old thread but it is quite interesting. As said before "02-Mar-94The Grand, Clapham, London, England ""The first Pogues reunion!" (for two songs)
"The Pogues final gig was in front of 300 fans at The Dome (the venue on the first floor of The Boston Arms public house), Tufnell Park, London on 28-Jul-96. During the evening, it had been announced that this was the last ever Pogues show. Shane MacGowan joined the band for one last song and as he left the stage is reputed to have shouted "Goodbye forever, thank Christ for that!”" https://web.archive.org/web/20131206104 ... 992-96.htm

I've just watched the DVD and listened to the CD bootleg. I'd say he says "Goodnight, thanks for that" Just at the end of Rainy Night in Soho.

Goodnight & Thank You gets said when he leaves the stage after the final song which was Streams of Whiskey

by **Torfirion** Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:13 pm

I am upping this old thread but it is quite interesting. As said before "02-Mar-94The Grand, Clapham, London, England ""The first Pogues reunion!" (for two songs)
"The Pogues final gig was in front of 300 fans at The Dome (the venue on the first floor of The Boston Arms public house), Tufnell Park, London on 28-Jul-96. During the evening, it had been announced that this was the last ever Pogues show. Shane MacGowan joined the band for one last song and as he left the stage is reputed to have shouted "Goodbye forever, thank Christ for that!”" https://web.archive.org/web/20131206104 ... 992-96.htm

by **SMILEY WYLIE** Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:02 pm

I think it was in Osaka if anyone is interested, the second night of two and the last of the tour. I was there for that one in a small venue that was done out like a small dive but was in fact on floor 8 of a towerblock. They came back later in the year with Joe and played a bigger venue in Osaka. Shane did about three songs in all with Spider taking over on lead vocals for the rest. I remember reading a NME interview about a month later with the band and Joe, Tower records used to sell back copies, it was only then I realised it had been the last gig.

by **Jon** Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:48 am

philipchevron wrote:No, I don't think we ever seriously considered that, as circumstances stood, we would ever reunite with Shane. We were, after all, still fulfilling the excessive gig contracts that had contributed to Shane's implosion in the first place. I think I mentioned in the If I Should Fall From Grace documentary that what we should have done was take a year off, recharge, regroup and screw the legal consequences, but that several vested interests had - incorrectly - persuaded us that this was not an option. This is a position Spider has echoed in recent interviews.

I guess the lack of pressure to keep producing hits is also probably key to your longevity? It seems to have done wonders for The Men They Couldn't Hang, 25 years in the business and their most recent release is a blinder!

by **philipchevron** Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:23 am

Zuzana wrote:All this makes one wonder: Were the Pogues expecting Shane to return after he left the band? Even in 1993, after the release of Waiting For Herb, the band members mentioned in interviews that they hoped Shane would eventually be back. Was the possibility of reunion with Shane kept in mind even years after the parting of ways? Or was there any official announcement of the split after all? Just curious.

No, I don't think we ever seriously considered that, as circumstances stood, we would ever reunite with Shane. We were, after all, still fulfilling the excessive gig contracts that had contributed to Shane's implosion in the first place. I think I mentioned in the If I Should Fall From Grace documentary that what we should have done was take a year off, recharge, regroup and screw the legal consequences, but that several vested interests had - incorrectly - persuaded us that this was not an option. This is a position Spider has echoed in recent interviews.

by **obsoleteshock** Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:21 am

This gig just shattered every other album in existance as my absolute most-wanted album. If they put it out, I will buy it without even glancing at the price.

by **Fr. McGreer** Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:38 pm

DrugProwlingWolf wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
RICHB wrote:Ps thanks for taking time out to answer that.

According to my records. such as they are, the show we recorded on that tour for a possible live album took place on December 12, 1991at the Forum, Kentish Town. Joe sang If I Should Fall From Grace With God, Sayonara, Rain Street, Turkish Song Of The Damned, London Calling, The Sunnyside Of The Street, Straight To Hell, Dirty Old Town,
The Sick Bed Of Cuchulainn, I Fought The Law, Hell`s Ditch, Brand New Cadillac and Fiesta. Andrew, myself and Spider did numbers too and Terry did several. No sign of Shane. That would appear to be the definitive answer.

The album remains unmixed, apart from the songs on the Box Set.

If that version of Turkish on the boxset is anything to go by, it's absolutely worth mixing. Maybe float the idea to the suits whenever the next inevitable Clash reissue blitz happens?

That gig was one of the best ever. It was surreal see to Mr. Strummer with his back to the audience and all the Pogues gathered around him in a circle playing the intro to Hell's Ditch, all building up to the cresendo that launches the song. He brought a totally different energy to the shows (not better than Shane at his peak) but different.

It HAS to be mixed and released.....please.....

by **DrugProwlingWolf** Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:30 pm

philipchevron wrote:
RICHB wrote:Ps thanks for taking time out to answer that.

According to my records. such as they are, the show we recorded on that tour for a possible live album took place on December 12, 1991at the Forum, Kentish Town. Joe sang If I Should Fall From Grace With God, Sayonara, Rain Street, Turkish Song Of The Damned, London Calling, The Sunnyside Of The Street, Straight To Hell, Dirty Old Town,
The Sick Bed Of Cuchulainn, I Fought The Law, Hell`s Ditch, Brand New Cadillac and Fiesta. Andrew, myself and Spider did numbers too and Terry did several. No sign of Shane. That would appear to be the definitive answer.

The album remains unmixed, apart from the songs on the Box Set.

If that version of Turkish on the boxset is anything to go by, it's absolutely worth mixing. Maybe float the idea to the suits whenever the next inevitable Clash reissue blitz happens?

by **Zuzana** Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:39 pm

All this makes one wonder: Were the Pogues expecting Shane to return after he left the band? Even in 1993, after the release of Waiting For Herb, the band members mentioned in interviews that they hoped Shane would eventually be back. Was the possibility of reunion with Shane kept in mind even years after the parting of ways? Or was there any official announcement of the split after all? Just curious.

by **Low D** Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:29 pm

Whiskey Tango wrote: What there was a lot of was talks about temporal vacation,

Goodness, i think i need one of those!

by **in_the_morning** Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:03 pm

I don't know the exact date of the last gig, but on Youtube there are some videos of one of the last gigs with Shane. Just type "The Pogues Japan 1991" and you'll find them. Unfortunately, the quality is poor, but it's a Pogues gig, so who cares. You can actually hear that Shane is quite out of it, if you compare it to earlier Pogues shows, for example Live at T & C 1988 or earlier ones as well. He looks a bit different as well, with a huge beard and hawaii shirt. But the rest of the band is in great form on those videos. Well, check it out if you don't know it, good stuff!

by **Whiskey Tango** Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:31 pm

DzM wrote:I saw The Pogues + Joe Strummer on October 6 or 7, 1991 at the Warfield in San Francisco. Shane was out of the band at that point, though Joe was still saying "I'm just keeping the seat warm."

The ninth anniversary of the Pogues the band and Shane celebrated separately :wink:

Funny.. Fans who had obtained tix months before, when Shane was still with The Pogues, were quite surprised by his absence. For rather a long time there was no any official signal regarding the band’s and its frontman’s decision to part their ways. And definitely there were no statements on split up after that meeting at Darryl’s hotel room on the 31st of Aug or before USA/Canada dates in September. What there was a lot of was talks about temporal vacation, resting for imminent future, hints at health issues, problems with touring and lack of Shane's interest. And rumours, rumours, rumours - tons of them.. So it was up to fans what to make out of it. During the next year or two many of them were still hoping for Shane’s glorious come back. And maybe only solo acts of both sides (tours, records, deals) opened fans’ eyes and put dots over “i”s.

Am I right in saying that when Joe took over that there where some gigs that he couldnt commit to and the duties where shared so to speak in those gigs? Everytime I think back to that Dec 91 though I can pitcure Shane but im obviously have it perminantly mixed up in my brain now ha ha. When did Spider take over as jockey?????

Joe lent his throat and other talents for 6 month and carried out USA/Canada (Sept-Oct, 1991), Europe (Oct-Nov, 1991), UK/Irealand (Nov-Dec,1991) and Japan (Mar,1992) dates during that period. But he wasn’t the only vocalist, others shared the duty with him during the same shows. Spider included. Then (i.e. spring 1992) Spider became the main singer, with Terry doing a lot of vocals as well.

by **RICHB** Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:50 am

Am I right in saying that when Joe took over that there where some gigs that he couldnt commit to and the duties where shared so to speak in those gigs? Everytime I think back to that Dec 91 though I can pitcure Shane but im obviously have it perminantly mixed up in my brain now ha ha. When did Spider take over as jockey?????

by **Low D** Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:33 am

philipchevron wrote:As far as I know, Shane´s last show with us was in Tokyo, widely available on both audio and video bootlegs.

As ever, I make no claims to be an authority on the matter.

Well, Pogueslive.com, who maybe CAN claim to be an authority on the matter, has it as 30-Aug-91 Womad Festival, Yokohama, Japan. It was broadcast on TV or something, and as Philip mentioned, exists as a widely distributed bootleg. I"ve seen it, and while Shane's performance may be lacking, i remember thinking how damn good the rest of the band were, esp. Spider on the whistle.

by **MacRua** Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:27 pm

RICHB wrote:Continuing with my 'last' theme (last song recorded with Shane on the other page). Does anyone know when and where the last gig (pre reunion) with Shane was?

If you mean the last gig before sack notice (or whatever you call it) - 30th Aug 1991. Could be the last gig with classic line up as well.
But I believe Shane chrashed Pogues parties cupla times later, like in 1994, or that farewell London gig in July 1996.

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