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  • Quote ohAonghusa

Post by ohAonghusa Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:00 pm

nboldock wrote:I personally love both of Shane's "solo" albums but I always try not to compare them directly with the Pogues output as really, they are of quite different ilks.


I don't disagree. Bought both post-Shane releases and enjoyed them.

But much like the Beatles in their solo years, you found the odd good track on an album, but it was clear that they benefited from being together. The four albums Pogue Mahone, Waiting for Herb, The Snake and The Crock of Gold would've made 2 f***in great records had they stayed together.
[quote="nboldock"]I personally love both of Shane's "solo" albums but I always try not to compare them directly with the Pogues output as really, they are of quite different ilks.[/quote]

I don't disagree. Bought both post-Shane releases and enjoyed them.

But much like the Beatles in their solo years, you found the odd good track on an album, but it was clear that they benefited from being together. The four albums Pogue Mahone, Waiting for Herb, The Snake and The Crock of Gold would've made 2 f***in great records had they stayed together.
  • Quote pogues24

Post by pogues24 Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:41 pm

As did NW3, which eventually evolved in Mother Mo Chroi.

Iain
As did NW3, which eventually evolved in Mother Mo Chroi.

Iain
  • Quote nboldock

Post by nboldock Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:35 pm

I personally love both of Shane's "solo" albums but I always try not to compare them directly with the Pogues output as really, they are of quite different ilks. Yeah, they both have their roots in the same place, but the Popes sound and the Pogues sound is different, and therefore not directly comparable. Just enjoy these things for what they are.

Though going back to an earlier debate, of course "Donegal Express" was also originally a Pogues song (at least in demo form) and I would love to see that done by its originally intended performers. I think it had slightly different lyrics to the Popes version but I could be wrong.......
I personally love both of Shane's "solo" albums but I always try not to compare them directly with the Pogues output as really, they are of quite different ilks. Yeah, they both have their roots in the same place, but the Popes sound and the Pogues sound is different, and therefore not directly comparable. Just enjoy these things for what they are.

Though going back to an earlier debate, of course "Donegal Express" was also originally a Pogues song (at least in demo form) and I would love to see that done by its originally intended performers. I think it had slightly different lyrics to the Popes version but I could be wrong.......
  • Quote ohAonghusa

Post by ohAonghusa Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:19 pm

The Snake is flawless.

Crock of Gold has its fair share of missteps/indulgencies but brings much more piss and vinegar than PM or Waiting for Herb.
The Snake is flawless.

Crock of Gold has its fair share of missteps/indulgencies but brings much more piss and vinegar than PM or Waiting for Herb.
  • Quote ohAonghusa

Post by ohAonghusa Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:17 pm

pogues24 wrote:I believe that The Snake and Crock of Gold are way better than the two post-Shane releases. I'll even put them both on before Peace and Love and Hell's Ditch usually.

Iain


Agree 1000%
[quote="pogues24"]I believe that The Snake and Crock of Gold are way better than the two post-Shane releases. I'll even put them both on before Peace and Love and Hell's Ditch usually.

Iain[/quote]

Agree 1000%
  • Quote pogues24

Post by pogues24 Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:15 pm

I believe that The Snake and Crock of Gold are way better than the two post-Shane releases. I'll even put them both on before Peace and Love and Hell's Ditch usually.

Iain
I believe that The Snake and Crock of Gold are way better than the two post-Shane releases. I'll even put them both on before Peace and Love and Hell's Ditch usually.

Iain
  • Quote theCOOP

Post by theCOOP Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:30 am

I believe Philip has expressed that there is little to no interest in performing anything other than true Pogues-with-Shane tracks.

Meh, Crock of Gold? I can really take it or leave it. The Snake is actually quite good, but neither solo albums have anything on the Pogues albums.

Infact, my favorite Post-Pogues album of any member would be the Bucks.
I believe Philip has expressed that there is little to no interest in performing anything other than true Pogues-with-Shane tracks.

Meh, Crock of Gold? I can really take it or leave it. The Snake is actually quite good, but neither solo albums have anything on the Pogues albums.

Infact, my favorite Post-Pogues album of any member would be the Bucks.
  • Quote nboldock

Post by nboldock Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:53 pm

KathleenwithaK wrote:
Dropofposion wrote:
KathleenwithaK wrote:if you show me yours I'll show you mine


Ok

1)Bottle of Smoke
2)Waxies Dargle
3)Streams of Whiskey
4)Dirty Old Town
5)Lullaby of London
6)Jesse James
7)London Your a Lady
8)The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
9)The Broad Majestic Shannon
10)The Boys from the County Hell
11)Aisling
12)A Pair of Brown Eyes
13)Thousands are Sailing
14)Auld Triangle
15)IISFFGWG
16)Poor Paddy
17)Sally MacLennane
18)Wake of the Medusa
19)Body of an American
20Young Ned of the Hill
21)Whiskey in the Jar

____________________________

22)Star of the County Down
23)Turkish Song of the Dammed
24)FToNY
25)Irish Rover

I've been meaning to get back to you on this but have been very busy. I agree with your list with one exception. Fiesta! Not because I love the song but because I would feel bad if it were someone's first Pogues show and they didn't get to see it performed live.


What a very good point. You can't have a Pogues gig without Fiesta can you. It just ain't right.
[quote="KathleenwithaK"][quote="Dropofposion"][quote="KathleenwithaK"]if you show me yours I'll show you mine[/quote]

Ok

1)Bottle of Smoke
2)Waxies Dargle
3)Streams of Whiskey
4)Dirty Old Town
5)Lullaby of London
6)Jesse James
7)London Your a Lady
8)The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
9)The Broad Majestic Shannon
10)The Boys from the County Hell
11)Aisling
12)A Pair of Brown Eyes
13)Thousands are Sailing
14)Auld Triangle
15)IISFFGWG
16)Poor Paddy
17)Sally MacLennane
18)Wake of the Medusa
19)Body of an American
20Young Ned of the Hill
21)Whiskey in the Jar

____________________________

22)Star of the County Down
23)Turkish Song of the Dammed
24)FToNY
25)Irish Rover[/quote]
I've been meaning to get back to you on this but have been very busy. I agree with your list with one exception. Fiesta! Not because I love the song but because I would feel bad if it were someone's first Pogues show and they didn't get to see it performed live.[/quote]

What a very good point. You can't have a Pogues gig without Fiesta can you. It just ain't right.
  • Quote KathleenwithaK

Post by KathleenwithaK Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:36 pm

Dropofposion wrote:
KathleenwithaK wrote:if you show me yours I'll show you mine


Ok

1)Bottle of Smoke
2)Waxies Dargle
3)Streams of Whiskey
4)Dirty Old Town
5)Lullaby of London
6)Jesse James
7)London Your a Lady
8)The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
9)The Broad Majestic Shannon
10)The Boys from the County Hell
11)Aisling
12)A Pair of Brown Eyes
13)Thousands are Sailing
14)Auld Triangle
15)IISFFGWG
16)Poor Paddy
17)Sally MacLennane
18)Wake of the Medusa
19)Body of an American
20Young Ned of the Hill
21)Whiskey in the Jar

____________________________

22)Star of the County Down
23)Turkish Song of the Dammed
24)FToNY
25)Irish Rover

I've been meaning to get back to you on this but have been very busy. I agree with your list with one exception. Fiesta! Not because I love the song but because I would feel bad if it were someone's first Pogues show and they didn't get to see it performed live.
[quote="Dropofposion"][quote="KathleenwithaK"]if you show me yours I'll show you mine[/quote]

Ok

1)Bottle of Smoke
2)Waxies Dargle
3)Streams of Whiskey
4)Dirty Old Town
5)Lullaby of London
6)Jesse James
7)London Your a Lady
8)The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
9)The Broad Majestic Shannon
10)The Boys from the County Hell
11)Aisling
12)A Pair of Brown Eyes
13)Thousands are Sailing
14)Auld Triangle
15)IISFFGWG
16)Poor Paddy
17)Sally MacLennane
18)Wake of the Medusa
19)Body of an American
20Young Ned of the Hill
21)Whiskey in the Jar

____________________________

22)Star of the County Down
23)Turkish Song of the Dammed
24)FToNY
25)Irish Rover[/quote]
I've been meaning to get back to you on this but have been very busy. I agree with your list with one exception. Fiesta! Not because I love the song but because I would feel bad if it were someone's first Pogues show and they didn't get to see it performed live.
  • Quote Revsta

Let's hear some South Australia at the Orpheum on the 11th!!

Post by Revsta Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:15 am

That tune is killer. Think you can work it into the set list? 8)
That tune is killer. Think you can work it into the set list? 8)
  • Quote Guest

Post by Guest Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:45 pm

I wouldn't expect any significant changes to the setlist. '06 shows in U.S. were almost identical. At least holiday shows had a few from the vault.
Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, or something.
I wouldn't expect any significant changes to the setlist. '06 shows in U.S. were almost identical. At least holiday shows had a few from the vault.
Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, or something.
  • Quote Dropofpoison

Re: Idea

Post by Dropofpoison Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:35 pm

dawson wrote:
Dropofpoison wrote:Wouldn't it be cool if there was an online contest, where everyone submits a setlist they want and then one is picked and played next Christmas(If theres going to be a Christmas tour in 07 if not, at some other gig) I know this won't happen, but wouldn't it be great?


It would only be great if you won. What if some guy who wins takes the piss and makes them play worms 40 times. This is a crap idea I cant beleive they are doing this. Its an outrage.


Don't worry. They're not doing it, it was just a suggestion. Also, I realised I left RNiS off my original post, but can't edit it because I wasn't logged in at the time.
[quote="dawson"][quote="Dropofpoison"]Wouldn't it be cool if there was an online contest, where everyone submits a setlist they want and then one is picked and played next Christmas(If theres going to be a Christmas tour in 07 if not, at some other gig) I know this won't happen, but wouldn't it be great?[/quote]

It would only be great if you won. What if some guy who wins takes the piss and makes them play worms 40 times. This is a crap idea I cant beleive they are doing this. Its an outrage.[/quote]

Don't worry. They're not doing it, it was just a suggestion. Also, I realised I left RNiS off my original post, but can't edit it because I wasn't logged in at the time.
  • Quote Rat

Post by Rat Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:33 pm

So many good songs for them to chose from.

If I did get to pick a non-shane song that they would play for me (us), I'd probably pick Blue Heaven. Such a beautiful song.
So many good songs for them to chose from.

If I did get to pick a non-shane song that they would play for me (us), I'd probably pick Blue Heaven. Such a beautiful song.
  • Quote The Duke of Ingmar

Post by The Duke of Ingmar Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:28 am

Seven Towers wrote:
Yeah, they should play something for Tommy. LLH is better than some of the songs on the current set lists. I don't see what the big deal is all about. As far as I can see, there is no law against playing something from Crock Of Gold.


I think the Pogues could really do "Aisling" as it had been originally intended as a Pogues song.

And I´d love to hear Terry Woods singing Grá gael mo chroí, one of the finest songs ever by a Pogues member.
[quote="Seven Towers"]

Yeah, they should play something for Tommy. LLH is better than some of the songs on the current set lists. I don't see what the big deal is all about. As far as I can see, there is no law against playing something from Crock Of Gold.[/quote]

I think the Pogues could really do "Aisling" as it had been originally intended as a Pogues song.

And I´d love to hear Terry Woods singing Grá gael mo chroí, one of the finest songs ever by a Pogues member.
  • Quote Seven Towers

Post by Seven Towers Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:38 am

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
KeithWillis wrote:Lonesome Highway could quite easily have been a Pogues song. Would be great to hear that song live again
#

Yes, but it's not a Pogues song, is it?


I could imagine you have never even considered doing a song from one of the single members of the group !?


Yeah, they should play something for Tommy. LLH is better than some of the songs on the current set lists. I don't see what the big deal is all about. As far as I can see, there is no law against playing something from Crock Of Gold.
[quote="The Duke of Ingmar"][quote="philipchevron"][quote="KeithWillis"]Lonesome Highway could quite easily have been a Pogues song. Would be great to hear that song live again[/quote]#

Yes, but it's [i]not[/i] a Pogues song, is it?[/quote]

I could imagine you have never even considered doing a song from one of the single members of the group !?[/quote]

Yeah, they should play something for Tommy. LLH is better than some of the songs on the current set lists. I don't see what the big deal is all about. As far as I can see, there is no law against playing something from Crock Of Gold.

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