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Re: Rain Street - Pogues and Joe Strummer

Post by Broad Majestic Jimmy Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:03 pm

Low D wrote:
Broad Majestic Jimmy wrote:I saw The Pogues with Joe filling in for Mr C back in Boston in 87. I'll always remember they played London Calling as an encore. I cant remember the name of the club, but its the littel club past McDonalds heading out on Comm Ave. I was attending BU at the time and it was about 2 blocks from my dorm.


Was that "The Metro"? I have a bootleg of a gig there, 1 Dec 1987. Not bad for an audience recording of the Pogues.


I had to look up the name, its The Paradise.

Re: Rain Street - Pogues and Joe Strummer

Post by Low D Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:01 pm

Broad Majestic Jimmy wrote:I saw The Pogues with Joe filling in for Mr C back in Boston in 87. I'll always remember they played London Calling as an encore. I cant remember the name of the club, but its the littel club past McDonalds heading out on Comm Ave. I was attending BU at the time and it was about 2 blocks from my dorm.


Was that "The Metro"? I have a bootleg of a gig there, 1 Dec 1987. Not bad for an audience recording of the Pogues.

Re: Rain Street - Pogues and Joe Strummer

Post by Broad Majestic Jimmy Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:50 pm

philipchevron wrote:
trashcity wrote:He really sang the hell out of it, didnt he?A joy to behold.

Any news on the live album Mr C?


I don't expect to see much happen until the current Sony/The Clash blitz peaks.


They are really milking it, aren't they?

Every year something new comes out. Even I'm not buying it anymore.

I saw The Pogues with Joe filling in for Mr C back in Boston in 87. I'll always remember they played London Calling as an encore. I cant remember the name of the club, but its the littel club past McDonalds heading out on Comm Ave. I was attending BU at the time and it was about 2 blocks from my dorm.

Edit: It was the Paradise.

Re: Rain Street - Pogues and Joe Strummer

Post by philipchevron Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:52 am

trashcity wrote:He really sang the hell out of it, didnt he?A joy to behold.

Any news on the live album Mr C?


I don't expect to see much happen until the current Sony/The Clash blitz peaks.

Rain Street - Pogues and Joe Strummer

Post by trashcity Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:15 pm

He really sang the hell out of it, didnt he?A joy to behold.

Any news on the live album Mr C?

Post by Fr. McGreer Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:52 pm

philipchevron wrote:What Joe did as lead singer with The Pogues was a stroke of Genius. He turned us into a sort of modern jazz ensemble, hanging on his every cue. [Shane does something similar, of course, though not always deliberately]. Anyway, the point is, Joe realised he could never "compete" with Shane, so he didn't even bother. He was the star of a whole new entity - The Pogues featuring Joe Strummer. And it was great while it lasted. It also lasted longer than most people (not least Joe's biographers) realise - just comparatively little of it happened in the UK. The World saw The Pogues featuring Joe Strummer and, by and large, liked what it saw.


I'll never forget Joe leading the boy's on an extended intro to Hell's Ditch. He had his back to the crowd and the band were around him in a semi circle, guitar, cittern, banjo, bass, the tempo slowly built to a climax and the vocals were electric.

At the time i was very pro Shane, i felt guilty enjoying it, but in hindsight, this was one of the greatest live shows.

Post by fatbloke Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:21 pm

The Pogues + Joe Strummer = Bloody brilliant!

Post by philipchevron Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:28 pm

What Joe did as lead singer with The Pogues was a stroke of Genius. He turned us into a sort of modern jazz ensemble, hanging on his every cue. [Shane does something similar, of course, though not always deliberately]. Anyway, the point is, Joe realised he could never "compete" with Shane, so he didn't even bother. He was the star of a whole new entity - The Pogues featuring Joe Strummer. And it was great while it lasted. It also lasted longer than most people (not least Joe's biographers) realise - just comparatively little of it happened in the UK. The World saw The Pogues featuring Joe Strummer and, by and large, liked what it saw.

Post by Fr. McGreer Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:14 pm

Cornish Andy wrote:Yes, I was at Brixton when Joe was fronting the band. It was fantastic. The energy on stage was electrifying. He gave the band a new lease of life after the 'difficult' period leading up to Shane's departure when things weren't going so well. I had seen the band headline the London Fleadh with Shane just a few months earlier, just prior to his leaving the band, and the atmosphere then was very different. You could kinda tell that something had to give.


Yeah i agree 100%. We were also at Brixton. My girl friend (now wife) said it was her favourite gig ever. She'd be impartial though as far as Strummer V MacGowan is concerned. When Shane's on form though, no one touches him.

Re: Seeing the Pogues in 1991 with Strummer

Post by Jon Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:27 pm

DzM wrote:My attitude at the time was "The Pogues! Fuck yeah! And Joe Strummer from The Clash! Extra more double-plus-good! HELL FUCK YEAH!"


I recall being at a 'Joe led' gig with a mate who needed persuading to come after seeing a 'bad' Shane gig, and he had the same attitued along with a small dose of the "thank god shane isn't here to ruin it", and at the time I had to agree with him. If there was ever someone to short-term fill Shane's shoes, it would've been Joe, and I'll be raising a glass to him this xmas. :wink:

Post by DrugProwlingWolf Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:47 pm

Because he's a sociopath?

Sometimes that's the only explanation that I can come up with for human behavior. I use it too often.

P.S. From the 2 or 3 bootlegs I've listened to, the most memorable things I've noticed about Strummer's tenure with the band are a) the Pogues do a great job of showing how timeless Straight to Hell is, b) Joe really gave those shows an injection of energy that'd been lacking from Shane for the last year or so, and c) he was way great at singing If I Should Fall From Grace/Sayonara (where he emotes in ways I rarely heard him before or after).

Re: Seeing the Pogues in 1991 with Strummer

Post by DzM Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:47 pm

philipchevron wrote:I mean, just don't buy a ticket, y'know?

To be completely fair, these were the first shows in the USofA after Shane was ejected. Tickets were on sale before the ejection.

There was a hand-lettered sign in the ticket window that said something like "Shane MacGowan will not be appearing. Joe Strummer is filling in. Refunds are available."

What surprises me is that people that were so obviously upset didn't instead opt for the refund rather than attend the show.


Now the flipping-off guy I saw at the Fillmore during the Pogue Mahone tour ... He knew what to expect. Why in the hell did he buy a ticket?

Re: Seeing the Pogues in 1991 with Strummer

Post by DzM Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:29 pm

robertc wrote:I saw the Pogues in San Francisco two nights in a row, Oct. 1991.

I had binoculars and throughout the whole show, some guy in the audience was holding up both middle fingers at Joe! I mean through the whole show!! I always took that to mean some Pogues fans didn' t like the way Joe had taken Shane's place. Does anyone else remember this show?

I was at one of these shows. It was my first Pogues show, and I was in heaven. The Lovely mrs. DzM tells me that I had my shirt off and was dancing/pogoing and shout/singing the whole night (I don't so much remember that, but do remember having a fantastic time).

I was having way too damn much fun to notice people being pricks about Joe being there. My attitude at the time was "The Pogues! Fuck yeah! And Joe Strummer from The Clash! Extra more double-plus-good! HELL FUCK YEAH!"

Re: Seeing the Pogues in 1991 with Strummer

Post by Mark_Wafc Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:23 pm

philipchevron wrote:
robertc wrote:I saw the Pogues in San Francisco two nights in a row, Oct. 1991.

I had binoculars and throughout the whole show, some guy in the audience was holding up both middle fingers at Joe! I mean through the whole show!! I always took that to mean some Pogues fans didn' t like the way Joe had taken Shane's place. Does anyone else remember this show?


There are wankers in even the best audiences.


That made me laugh outloud and spit tea on the keyboard!

Re: Seeing the Pogues in 1991 with Strummer

Post by philipchevron Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:23 pm

robertc wrote:I saw the Pogues in San Francisco two nights in a row, Oct. 1991.

I had binoculars and throughout the whole show, some guy in the audience was holding up both middle fingers at Joe! I mean through the whole show!! I always took that to mean some Pogues fans didn' t like the way Joe had taken Shane's place. Does anyone else remember this show?


There are wankers in even the best audiences. I mean, just don't buy a ticket, y'know?

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