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Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Wittonworrier Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:57 am

There was a Pogues tour of Europe prior to that London show in December '91 and there was one particular gig, in Germany,when a section of the audience voiced their disapproval of Joe and displayed a pro-Shane banner.As i recall,Joe took the matter into his own hands,went into the audience and literally gave the minority 'what for!'Unfortunately,there happened to be a couple of hacks from The Mail on Sunday,there to interview the band,and this incident must have been a welcome bonus to these guys.There was a subsequent article with photos that appeared in the Mail on Sunday a couple of weeks later and i know of two 'so called fans' who must have been well pissed off,they were working for Sport Newspapers[ha!]and they were also in Germany,posing as fans,hoping for a scoop,but they were not at that particular gig ,and i 'm glad to say , they ended up with nowt and hopefully got fired!

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Toulouse_Iron Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:58 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Toulouse_Iron wrote:Straight to Hell and Turkish Song of the Damned, I reckon....

Just a quick question: I know I was at one of the London gigs but no idea which one... somebody had a banner saying "Have ye no Shane?". Any ideas, folks?

Thanks, from a noob.


"Have you/ye no Shane?" appeared at a number of Pogues/Joe shows that year in various far-flung places. In every case, I believe the banner-creator believed himself uniquely witty.


The general feeling in the crowd was that it was out of order, if I remember correctly.
Thanks for the replies. Just trying to piece together some very hazy, yet wonderful memories of my gig-going days back in the UK. It was probably the Brixton gig, then. It was the last time I saw Joe on stage....

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Nick M Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:42 am

One of the things I used to love about Joe being on stage with the Pogues was the obvious love and admiration that he had for the band. If one of the other guys was singing, or if Spider or James were giving it loads he would stand and look at them with a big smile of almost paternal pride. The same feeling came through from his commentary on the 1988 St Patrick's Night video.

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Nick M Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:39 am

I remember that banner being at the Brixton gig with Joe in late 1991, it was hung from the front row of the circle. In Carole Clerk's book 'Kiss My Arse' it says that Joey Cashman went and asked the owners to remove it.

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by philipchevron Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:34 am

Toulouse_Iron wrote:Straight to Hell and Turkish Song of the Damned, I reckon....

Just a quick question: I know I was at one of the London gigs but no idea which one... somebody had a banner saying "Have ye no Shane?". Any ideas, folks?

Thanks, from a noob.


"Have you/ye no Shane?" appeared at a number of Pogues/Joe shows that year in various far-flung places. In every case, I believe the banner-creator believed himself uniquely witty.

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by DzM Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:22 am

Is there an actual question there?

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Toulouse_Iron Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:20 am

Straight to Hell and Turkish Song of the Damned, I reckon....

Just a quick question: I know I was at one of the London gigs but no idea which one... somebody had a banner saying "Have ye no Shane?". Any ideas, folks?

Thanks, from a noob.

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by RICHB Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:57 pm

I went to the Class War gigs in 88 or 89 and he regularly did If I Should fall fraom grace with god

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Low D Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:15 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Yes, I think this is my position too, though I always loved Joe's version of "Fall From Grace With God"


He played that one live with The Latino Rockabilly War line up, so I suppose he was fond of it too!

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Mike from Boston Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:30 pm

Thanks Mr. Chevron. I also thought Turkish Song of the Dammned was one he really got into.

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by philipchevron Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:26 pm

DzM wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
Mike from Boston wrote:Question for Mr. Chevron. Just interested in your opinion, what Pogues song did you think Joe really made his own or do something great/different when he performed with the Pogues in 1991?


Have to give that some thought.

For me what was more interesting was which Clash/Joe songs the Pogues (with Joe) made theirs. I love the Straight to Hell, for example, and forever hold out the hope that the band will start to play along with it (as Andrew and Darryl sometimes do) when they come on stage. Hope never dies.


Yes, I think this is my position too, though I always loved Joe's version of "Fall From Grace With God"

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Low D Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:21 am

DzM wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
Mike from Boston wrote:Question for Mr. Chevron. Just interested in your opinion, what Pogues song did you think Joe really made his own or do something great/different when he performed with the Pogues in 1991?


Have to give that some thought.

For me what was more interesting was which Clash/Joe songs the Pogues (with Joe) made theirs. I love the Straight to Hell, for example, and forever hold out the hope that the band will start to play along with it (as Andrew and Darryl sometimes do) when they come on stage. Hope never dies.


I would agree, "Straight to Hell" was taken to a whole other level with The Pogues, and I've only heard it on the crap quality audience recordings i have and i still think so.

I also think the accordion solo totally makes "London Calling" as well, like it was written for the accordion in the first place!

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by DzM Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:46 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Mike from Boston wrote:Question for Mr. Chevron. Just interested in your opinion, what Pogues song did you think Joe really made his own or do something great/different when he performed with the Pogues in 1991?


Have to give that some thought.

For me what was more interesting was which Clash/Joe songs the Pogues (with Joe) made theirs. I love the Straight to Hell, for example, and forever hold out the hope that the band will start to play along with it (as Andrew and Darryl sometimes do) when they come on stage. Hope never dies.

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by philipchevron Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:54 pm

Mike from Boston wrote:Question for Mr. Chevron. Just interested in your opinion, what Pogues song did you think Joe really made his own or do something great/different when he performed with the Pogues in 1991?


Have to give that some thought.

Re: JOE/POGUES concerts 1991

Post by Mike from Boston Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:40 pm

Question for Mr. Chevron. Just interested in your opinion, what Pogues song did you think Joe really made his own or do something great/different when he performed with the Pogues in 1991?

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