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  • Quote DownInTheGround

Post by DownInTheGround Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:21 pm

Is the previously mentioned news clip available anywhere on the internet?
Is the previously mentioned news clip available anywhere on the internet?
  • Quote Exapno Mapcase

Post by Exapno Mapcase Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:37 pm

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?


Or probably to Mrs Thatcher herself ? :o


A bit of a hockle on that vicious hag seems rather mild .
[quote="The Duke of Ingmar"][quote="philipchevron"]

The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?[/quote]

Or probably to Mrs Thatcher herself ? :o[/quote]

A bit of a hockle on that vicious hag seems rather mild .
  • Quote James

Post by James Fri May 04, 2007 11:22 pm

Adam wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
DownInTheGround wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?


I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.


The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?


The uncensored video would be a perfect DVD extra for the box set.
Actually, a DVD with all your music videos, plus...


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pogues-Poguevis ... B000HDR9J0
[quote="Adam"][quote="philipchevron"][quote="DownInTheGround"][quote="Anonymous"]The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?[/quote]

I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.[/quote]

The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?[/quote]

The uncensored video would be a perfect DVD extra for the box set.
Actually, a DVD with all your music videos, plus...[/quote]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pogues-Poguevis ... B000HDR9J0
  • Quote Adam

Post by Adam Fri May 04, 2007 5:49 pm

philipchevron wrote:
DownInTheGround wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?


I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.


The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?


The uncensored video would be a perfect DVD extra for the box set.
Actually, a DVD with all your music videos, plus...
[quote="philipchevron"][quote="DownInTheGround"][quote="Anonymous"]The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?[/quote]

I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.[/quote]

The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?[/quote]

The uncensored video would be a perfect DVD extra for the box set.
Actually, a DVD with all your music videos, plus...
  • Quote IrishRover

Post by IrishRover Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:28 pm

:D
:D
  • Quote The Duke of Ingmar

Post by The Duke of Ingmar Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:10 am

philipchevron wrote:
The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?


Or probably to Mrs Thatcher herself ? :o
[quote="philipchevron"]

The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?[/quote]

Or probably to Mrs Thatcher herself ? :o
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:22 pm

DownInTheGround wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?


I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.


The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?
[quote="DownInTheGround"][quote="Anonymous"]The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?[/quote]

I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.[/quote]

The shots of Spider gobbing at the Thatcher poster were removed by Stiff Records under pressure from the broadcasters. I never understood why. Isn't this what EVERYONE wanted to do to Thatcher posters?
  • Quote DownInTheGround

Post by DownInTheGround Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:55 pm

Anonymous wrote:The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?


I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.
[quote="Anonymous"]The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?[/quote]

I beleive because a scene fearures spitting on an image or Mrs Thatcher. I may have (probably) made that up, but it does spring to mind. Not sure it was officially band though.
  • Quote Guest

Post by Guest Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:17 pm

The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?
The video for A pair of brown eyes got banned too - I haven't seen it in ages but only remember some soldiery bits - and a lot of weird shit! anyone know why that got banneD?
  • Quote strummercalling

Re: The Pogues and the BBC

Post by strummercalling Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:06 am

philipchevron wrote:Now that the dust has settled, it is clear that Mrs Thatcher was comprehensively outgunned by both the IBA and BBC in the end. Employing actors to "voice" the words of the banned "enemies within" Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness etc was one thing. Printing the lyrics of "The Birmingham Six" on primetime News while an actor recited them over a freeze-frame of the Pogues on stage was quite another. Already unambiguous, never have those lyrics sounded less clear and never did the "ban" seem more absurd. I found it all hilarious.


Thank you for that! :)
I think I have actually seen that particular News clip. Absurd sums it up quite well...
[quote="philipchevron"]
Now that the dust has settled, it is clear that Mrs Thatcher was comprehensively outgunned by both the IBA and BBC in the end. Employing actors to "voice" the words of the banned "enemies within" Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness etc was one thing. Printing the lyrics of "The Birmingham Six" on primetime News while an actor recited them over a freeze-frame of the Pogues on stage was quite another. Already unambiguous, never have those lyrics sounded less clear and never did the "ban" seem more absurd. I found it all hilarious.[/quote]

Thank you for that! :)
I think I have actually seen that particular News clip. Absurd sums it up quite well...
  • Quote Dropofpoison

Post by Dropofpoison Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:48 pm

The strange thing is, it isn't even a pro-IRA song a tall, its just a "Why can't you catch the right people) song.
The strange thing is, it isn't even a pro-IRA song a tall, its just a "Why can't you catch the right people) song.
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: The Pogues and the BBC

Post by philipchevron Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:41 am

strummercalling wrote:Dear Mr. C,
I’m writing a paper on the BBC, British radio in general, and censorship of music, especially in the 80’s under the Thatcher government. This will include the resulting implications for various political views, such as the Irish perspective, and the lack of Irish voices in English media. I’m going to talk about The Pogues, particularly the “Streets of Sorrow/Birmingham Six” ban and lack of early radio airplay, as with the name “Pogue Mahone” getting banned.

Do you have any thoughts on what it was like being in the Pogues at the time and trying to get airplay in the midst of the media ban, or simply being an Irish musician at the time?
(Or a musician in general… I know songs and videos were always getting banned by the BBC for odd reasons!)

Thanks for your time and help! It’s much appreciated.


Now that the dust has settled, it is clear that Mrs Thatcher was comprehensively outgunned by both the IBA and BBC in the end. Employing actors to "voice" the words of the banned "enemies within" Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness etc was one thing. Printing the lyrics of "The Birmingham Six" on primetime News while an actor recited them over a freeze-frame of the Pogues on stage was quite another. Already unambiguous, never have those lyrics sounded less clear and never did the "ban" seem more absurd. I found it all hilarious.
[quote="strummercalling"]Dear Mr. C,
I’m writing a paper on the BBC, British radio in general, and censorship of music, especially in the 80’s under the Thatcher government. This will include the resulting implications for various political views, such as the Irish perspective, and the lack of Irish voices in English media. I’m going to talk about The Pogues, particularly the “Streets of Sorrow/Birmingham Six” ban and lack of early radio airplay, as with the name “Pogue Mahone” getting banned.

Do you have any thoughts on what it was like being in the Pogues at the time and trying to get airplay in the midst of the media ban, or simply being an Irish musician at the time?
(Or a musician in general… I know songs and videos were always getting banned by the BBC for odd reasons!)

Thanks for your time and help! It’s much appreciated.[/quote]

Now that the dust has settled, it is clear that Mrs Thatcher was comprehensively outgunned by both the IBA and BBC in the end. Employing actors to "voice" the words of the banned "enemies within" Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness etc was one thing. Printing the lyrics of "The Birmingham Six" on primetime News while an actor recited them over a freeze-frame of the Pogues on stage was quite another. Already unambiguous, never have those lyrics sounded less clear and never did the "ban" seem more absurd. I found it all hilarious.
  • Quote IrishRover

Post by IrishRover Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:21 pm

great question strummercalling! :D
great question strummercalling! :D
  • Quote strummercalling

The Pogues and the BBC

Post by strummercalling Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:11 am

Dear Mr. C,
I’m writing a paper on the BBC, British radio in general, and censorship of music, especially in the 80’s under the Thatcher government. This will include the resulting implications for various political views, such as the Irish perspective, and the lack of Irish voices in English media. I’m going to talk about The Pogues, particularly the “Streets of Sorrow/Birmingham Six” ban and lack of early radio airplay, as with the name “Pogue Mahone” getting banned.

Do you have any thoughts on what it was like being in the Pogues at the time and trying to get airplay in the midst of the media ban, or simply being an Irish musician at the time?
(Or a musician in general… I know songs and videos were always getting banned by the BBC for odd reasons!)

Thanks for your time and help! It’s much appreciated.
Dear Mr. C,
I’m writing a paper on the BBC, British radio in general, and censorship of music, especially in the 80’s under the Thatcher government. This will include the resulting implications for various political views, such as the Irish perspective, and the lack of Irish voices in English media. I’m going to talk about The Pogues, particularly the “Streets of Sorrow/Birmingham Six” ban and lack of early radio airplay, as with the name “Pogue Mahone” getting banned.

Do you have any thoughts on what it was like being in the Pogues at the time and trying to get airplay in the midst of the media ban, or simply being an Irish musician at the time?
(Or a musician in general… I know songs and videos were always getting banned by the BBC for odd reasons!)

Thanks for your time and help! It’s much appreciated.

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