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Post by Eric V Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:49 am

philipchevron wrote:By the way, I adore cheetahs. Any that survive to adulthood are, almost by definition, exceptional.


Well I'm glad to hear that. Had no idea. I have one cheetah tattooed to my leg, and am planning to have one tattood to the other. One running - one sitting. I have always identified with them. Cheetahs are one of the few animals that people are very familiar with, that might possibly disappear in the next century. Genetic problems as well as environmental limitations. But advantageous or not, my totem.

Post by philipchevron Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:56 am

By the way, I adore cheetahs. Any that survive to adulthood are, almost by definition, exceptional.

Post by philipchevron Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:52 am

Well yes, that;s why Pogues fans dig it when something like The Irish Rover falls to bits and we have to start it over. Anyone can hear the Irish Rover played well - it takes loyalty and perseverance to catch the bad versions.

Re: Solo performance mess ups.

Post by Eric V Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:34 am

philipchevron wrote:
Eric V wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
I have personally witnessed David Bowie, Frank Sinatra, Julie Andrews and Ronnie Drew forget the words in concert.


That's quite a line-up. Must have been in the late 70s. :lol:


Bowie 76, Sinatra 90, Jools 1996


And each mistake was so noteworthy that even after 30 years you still recall Mr. Bowie's mistake, and the others, as if they were yesterday. I guess that runs counter to the idea that 'nobody will notice'. In fact, people will notice and will be haunted by it for decades.

Re: Solo performance mess ups.

Post by philipchevron Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:20 pm

Eric V wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
I have personally witnessed David Bowie, Frank Sinatra, Julie Andrews and Ronnie Drew forget the words in concert.


That's quite a line-up. Must have been in the late 70s. :lol:


Bowie 76, Sinatra 90, Jools 1996

Re: Solo performance mess ups.

Post by Eric V Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:41 pm

philipchevron wrote:
I have personally witnessed David Bowie, Frank Sinatra, Julie Andrews and Ronnie Drew forget the words in concert.


That's quite a line-up. Must have been in the late 70s. :lol:

Post by CraigBatty Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:13 pm

RoddyRuddy wrote:Mark E. Smith of The Fall used to get a A4 folder with all the lyrics in it out on stage when he forgot the words.

Ah, the good old reliable A4 folder.... I've got about 5 of them full of lyrics and tunes for when the brain collapses in on itself... I find that most of the time the mere sight of the first line triggers of the rest of the song. Quite the invaluable aide de memoire. :D

Post by Pyro Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:09 pm

Well, most of songs we do are written by me and I don´t have too big problems with those as I have some sort of bond to them. When I do other songs...troubles come :-) Mostly I have a paper with lyrics which I cover in sheet music (or my cryptic notes which I wrote 2 o´clock last morning :-)). That helps a lot.

Post by RoddyRuddy Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:41 pm

Mark E. Smith of The Fall used to get a A4 folder with all the lyrics in it out on stage when he forgot the words.

Post by IrishRover Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:29 pm

oi have those moments as well... forgetting lyrics in studio, at gigs..hmm oi guess not or oi was too pissed to rememeber that oi forgot lol

Re: Ella Fitzgerald

Post by philipchevron Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:57 pm

Mike from Boston wrote:I have a great version of Mack the Knife where Ella forgets the words,
but keeps singing "oh, what's the next chorus to this song now, this is the one I don't know...", etc. Never misses a beat. Got this off Napster during
the wild wild west days. Don't know where it came from.


Ella live in Berlin. It's an inspired piece of ad-libbing and was a big hit for her. Ella and her fellas indeed.

Ella Fitzgerald

Post by Mike from Boston Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:41 pm

I have a great version of Mack the Knife where Ella forgets the words,
but keeps singing "oh, what's the next chorus to this song now, this is the one I don't know...", etc. Never misses a beat. Got this off Napster during
the wild wild west days. Don't know where it came from.

Re: Solo performance mess ups.

Post by Mick Molloy Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:43 pm

philipchevron wrote:Ronnie Drew forget the words in concert.


I saw that one too, I was totally flabbergasted

Post by philipchevron Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:47 pm

MissWalshy wrote:Try not to worry - every one makes mistakes it human nature.

Just make up some other line.. and all will be ok.. probably 2 people out of 100 will notice.


Agnes Bernelle's performance of Brecht & Weill's BILBAO SONG had a dramatically built in forgetting-the-words section la la la la la la...............I can't even remember the words now.............it's SOOOO long ago....la da......... which she performed with elan for many years. Sadly, in her final shows in the mid-to-late 90s, the after-effects of two brain tumour operations began to exact a heavy price from her as a performer for real. But when we were planning just one final album (it never happened), I suggested she try Stephen Sondheim's long and complicated "I Never Do Anything Twice". The very last time I saw her perform, at Pirate Jenny's in London in 1996, she gave a word-perfect performance of it.

Post by MissWalshy Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:34 pm

Try not to worry - every one makes mistakes it human nature.

Just make up some other line.. and all will be ok.. probably 2 people out of 100 will notice.

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