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  • Quote Jon

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by Jon Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:28 am

nboldock wrote:
Jon wrote:It seems that quite a few bands who attempt Dylan covers usually end up with a better version that the original and I reckon, 'When The Ship Comes In' is no exception.

Now then... as much as I love The Pogues, and indeed their version of "When The Ship Comes In"... to suggest it's better than Dylan's version is plainly ludicrous...
(The Braggster did a nifty version of it at the Folk Britannia shindig a couple of years ago, as well)

Having recently played Uncle Bob's version (and as much as I really, really love his work) I'm happy to stand by my ludicrous (and correct) statement :P

FWIW, Both Braggy & Mick Thomas do really good versions of, "To Make You Feel My Love", but I have no further comment on whether they're better:lol:
[quote="nboldock"][quote="Jon"]It seems that quite a few bands who attempt Dylan covers usually end up with a better version that the original and I reckon, 'When The Ship Comes In' is no exception.[/quote]
Now then... as much as I love The Pogues, and indeed their version of "When The Ship Comes In"... to suggest it's better than Dylan's version is plainly ludicrous...
(The Braggster did a nifty version of it at the Folk Britannia shindig a couple of years ago, as well)[/quote]
Having recently played Uncle Bob's version (and as much as I really, really love his work) I'm happy to stand by my ludicrous (and correct) statement :P

FWIW, Both Braggy & Mick Thomas do really good versions of, "To Make You Feel My Love", but I have no further comment on whether they're better:lol:
  • Quote nboldock

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by nboldock Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:49 pm

Jon wrote:It seems that quite a few bands who attempt Dylan covers usually end up with a better version that the original and I reckon, 'When The Ship Comes In' is no exception.


Now then... as much as I love The Pogues, and indeed their version of "When The Ship Comes In"... to suggest it's better than Dylan's version is plainly ludicrous...

(The Braggster did a nifty version of it at the Folk Britannia shindig a couple of years ago, as well)
[quote="Jon"]It seems that quite a few bands who attempt Dylan covers usually end up with a better version that the original and I reckon, 'When The Ship Comes In' is no exception.[/quote]

Now then... as much as I love The Pogues, and indeed their version of "When The Ship Comes In"... to suggest it's better than Dylan's version is plainly ludicrous...

(The Braggster did a nifty version of it at the Folk Britannia shindig a couple of years ago, as well)
  • Quote Jon

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by Jon Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:28 am

It seems that quite a few bands who attempt Dylan covers usually end up with a better version that the original and I reckon, 'When The Ship Comes In' is no exception.
It seems that quite a few bands who attempt Dylan covers usually end up with a better version that the original and I reckon, 'When The Ship Comes In' is no exception.
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by philipchevron Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:53 am

OrionSafari wrote:Speaking of Tom Waits, I've always wanted to hear Tom sing on Pogues track with Shane. Talk about a meeting of two of the most memorable gravel voiced singers alive. I'm sure over the decades there have been plenty of potential collaborations with other artists or bands that just didn't happen for one reason or another. Are there any that come to mind that you wish had made it to the studio?


We probably could have done a good record with Bob Dylan if he hadn't been so obviously terrified of us.
[quote="OrionSafari"]Speaking of Tom Waits, I've always wanted to hear Tom sing on Pogues track with Shane. Talk about a meeting of two of the most memorable gravel voiced singers alive. I'm sure over the decades there have been plenty of potential collaborations with other artists or bands that just didn't happen for one reason or another. Are there any that come to mind that you wish had made it to the studio?[/quote]

We probably could have done a good record with Bob Dylan if he hadn't been so obviously terrified of us.
  • Quote OrionSafari

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by OrionSafari Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:34 am

Speaking of Tom Waits, I've always wanted to hear Tom sing on Pogues track with Shane. Talk about a meeting of two of the most memorable gravel voiced singers alive. I'm sure over the decades there have been plenty of potential collaborations with other artists or bands that just didn't happen for one reason or another. Are there any that come to mind that you wish had made it to the studio?
Speaking of Tom Waits, I've always wanted to hear Tom sing on Pogues track with Shane. Talk about a meeting of two of the most memorable gravel voiced singers alive. I'm sure over the decades there have been plenty of potential collaborations with other artists or bands that just didn't happen for one reason or another. Are there any that come to mind that you wish had made it to the studio?
  • Quote pogues24

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by pogues24 Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:09 pm

Simon Maguire wrote:Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.



I've always believed The Pogues should have called it a day after Waiting For Herb. The magic/chemistry that made the band so vital in the first place was already starting to burn out. I think after James and Terry left, the group should have disbanded. Now I'm not saying that Pogue Mahone was a bad album, there are some rather catchy songs in that lot, but I think by this time the band were on a hiding towards nothing.

Iain
[quote="Simon Maguire"]Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.[/quote]


I've always believed The Pogues should have called it a day after Waiting For Herb. The magic/chemistry that made the band so vital in the first place was already starting to burn out. I think after James and Terry left, the group should have disbanded. Now I'm not saying that Pogue Mahone was a bad album, there are some rather catchy songs in that lot, but I think by this time the band were on a hiding towards nothing.

Iain
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:23 pm

Woody wrote:Thank you for the information Mr.Chevron! Is Bob Dylan actually a Pogues fan? I read somewhere times that Bruce Springsteen expressed itself very positive over the music of the Pogues! That is nevertheless really a radix complement. :D


All the best guys - Bruce, Bob, Steve Earle, Lou Reed, Tom Waits, David Bowie....................are Pogues fans, as you would expect.
[quote="Woody"]Thank you for the information Mr.Chevron! Is Bob Dylan actually a Pogues fan? I read somewhere times that Bruce Springsteen expressed itself very positive over the music of the Pogues! That is nevertheless really a radix complement. :D[/quote]

All the best guys - Bruce, Bob, Steve Earle, Lou Reed, Tom Waits, David Bowie....................are Pogues fans, as you would expect.
  • Quote Woody

Post by Woody Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:00 am

Thank you for the information Mr.Chevron! Is Bob Dylan actually a Pogues fan? I read somewhere times that Bruce Springsteen expressed itself very positive over the music of the Pogues! That is nevertheless really a radix complement. :D
Thank you for the information Mr.Chevron! Is Bob Dylan actually a Pogues fan? I read somewhere times that Bruce Springsteen expressed itself very positive over the music of the Pogues! That is nevertheless really a radix complement. :D
  • Quote Alex

Post by Alex Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:09 pm

philipchevron wrote:The first night of our US West Coast tour with Bob Dylan was quite memorable, as we arrived without our lead singer and our instruments were still at the Docks. We borrowed some instruments and went on stage, but were unable to borrow a lead singer, so we just did the best we could. Dylan silently watched the whole business unfold with fox eyes peering out of his hoodie.


Did you hear what he had to say about the Pogues on his Radio show??
This thread
[quote="philipchevron"]
The first night of our US West Coast tour with Bob Dylan was [i]quite [/i]memorable, as we arrived without our lead singer and our instruments were still at the Docks. We borrowed some instruments and went on stage, but were unable to borrow a lead singer, so we just did the best we could. Dylan silently watched the whole business unfold with fox eyes peering out of his hoodie.[/quote]

Did you hear what he had to say about the Pogues on his Radio show??
[url=http://www.pogues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8009]This thread[/url]
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:55 pm

Woody wrote:Is there any Gig in memory particularly remained, negative or possitive? I heard times of a Gig, where someone burned an England flag bzw.the Gig in Berlin to Hitler birthday-repents one something which one over the whole years with the Pogues made, or one nearly everything deeply felt would again in such a way make?


The first night of our US West Coast tour with Bob Dylan was quite memorable, as we arrived without our lead singer and our instruments were still at the Docks. We borrowed some instruments and went on stage, but were unable to borrow a lead singer, so we just did the best we could. Dylan silently watched the whole business unfold with fox eyes peering out of his hoodie.
[quote="Woody"]Is there any Gig in memory particularly remained, negative or possitive? I heard times of a Gig, where someone burned an England flag bzw.the Gig in Berlin to Hitler birthday-repents one something which one over the whole years with the Pogues made, or one nearly everything deeply felt would again in such a way make?[/quote]

The first night of our US West Coast tour with Bob Dylan was [i]quite [/i]memorable, as we arrived without our lead singer and our instruments were still at the Docks. We borrowed some instruments and went on stage, but were unable to borrow a lead singer, so we just did the best we could. Dylan silently watched the whole business unfold with fox eyes peering out of his hoodie.
  • Quote Woody

Post by Woody Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:58 am

Is there any Gig in memory particularly remained, negative or possitive? I heard times of a Gig, where someone burned an England flag bzw.the Gig in Berlin to Hitler birthday-repents one something which one over the whole years with the Pogues made, or one nearly everything deeply felt would again in such a way make?
Is there any Gig in memory particularly remained, negative or possitive? I heard times of a Gig, where someone burned an England flag bzw.the Gig in Berlin to Hitler birthday-repents one something which one over the whole years with the Pogues made, or one nearly everything deeply felt would again in such a way make?
  • Quote territa

Post by territa Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:48 am

Woody wrote:Ich hopes much that we still many years the pleasure have the Pogues together Live to experience.

I hope so too, Woody.
[quote="Woody"]Ich hopes much that we still many years the pleasure have the Pogues together Live to experience.[/quote]
I hope so too, Woody.
  • Quote Woody

Post by Woody Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:43 am

It was really a shock for me to see some volume members the volume to have left. I be-took correctly on festival in Germany, where they were not already any longer thereby. Somehow was everything totally different. I missed it very much, although the organizer recruited thereby that before the Pogues to first times for years again all together will arise, and this was in the year 1994.Ich hopes much that we still many years the pleasure have the Pogues together Live to experience.
It was really a shock for me to see some volume members the volume to have left. I be-took correctly on festival in Germany, where they were not already any longer thereby. Somehow was everything totally different. I missed it very much, although the organizer recruited thereby that before the Pogues to first times for years again all together will arise, and this was in the year 1994.Ich hopes much that we still many years the pleasure have the Pogues together Live to experience.
  • Quote Simon Maguire

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by Simon Maguire Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:10 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Simon Maguire wrote:Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.


James and Terry had left a bit before me. I missed me mates, badly. So, I genuinely left for health reasons, but let's say it was an easier decision to make than it would have been a year or so earlier. Not that the others were not my mates, they were and are, but the chemistry of the band seemed to suddenly constrict after J and T left. It had been different with Shane, as he had become such a frickin' liability by then that he had a slightly different notion of, um, chemistry.

You have to be real careful when you mess about with the chemistry of great bands. Myself, Woodsy and Darryl were all positive additions to the Pogues, not least because we brought a degree of respect and humility with us - for a while at least!! The same cannot necessarily be said of everyone who joined the band.


So True.
[quote="philipchevron"][quote="Simon Maguire"]Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.[/quote]

James and Terry had left a bit before me. I missed me mates, badly. So, I genuinely left for health reasons, but let's say it was an easier decision to make than it would have been a year or so earlier. Not that the others were not my mates, they were and are, but the chemistry of the band seemed to suddenly constrict after J and T left. It had been different with Shane, as he had become such a frickin' liability by then that he had a slightly different notion of, um, chemistry.

You have to be real careful when you mess about with the chemistry of great bands. Myself, Woodsy and Darryl were all positive additions to the Pogues, not least because we brought a degree of respect and humility with us - for a while at least!! The same cannot necessarily be said of everyone who joined the band.[/quote]

So True.
  • Quote Jon

Re: Leaving The Pogues.

Post by Jon Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:26 pm

philipchevron wrote:You have to be real careful when you mess about with the chemistry of great bands. Myself, Woodsy and Darryl were all positive additions to the Pogues, not least because we brought a degree of respect and humility with us - for a while at least!! The same cannot necessarily be said of everyone who joined the band.


After Darryl?
[quote="philipchevron"]
You have to be real careful when you mess about with the chemistry of great bands. Myself, Woodsy and Darryl were all positive additions to the Pogues, not least because we brought a degree of respect and humility with us - for a while at least!! The same cannot necessarily be said of everyone who joined the band.[/quote]

After Darryl?

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