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  • Quote gng

Re: "Fiesta" by the Pogues

Post by gng Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:36 pm

I'm from Almería. This song is awesome, The first time I hear this song a few days ago. I remember Almeria in 1987 and the Almeria's Fiesta (and feria) was near the Hotel where The Pogues try to sleep.

ghostgoblin
I'm from Almería. This song is awesome, The first time I hear this song a few days ago. I remember Almeria in 1987 and the Almeria's Fiesta (and feria) was near the Hotel where The Pogues try to sleep.

ghostgoblin
  • Quote John L

Post by John L Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:01 am

Response from Jem;

It was alto.

I can't remember who played it . . either me or a guy called Brian Clarke who was in a band called After Tonight.

Maybe both . . .!

Hope that helps.

cheers

Jem
Response from Jem;

[quote]It was alto.

I can't remember who played it . . either me or a guy called Brian Clarke who was in a band called After Tonight.

Maybe both . . .!

Hope that helps.

cheers

Jem[/quote]
  • Quote pogues24

Post by pogues24 Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:12 pm

I have an early live version of Fiesta where the second verse starts something like this:

"Señor Fearnley is drunk and crazy
He is dancing upon the tables
Señor Fearnley you must forgive me
He is angry with the British Navy"

Since the song is about their time in Almeria I guess there some truth behind these words.

The Spanish verse is also slightly different

Indeed!! The video I have on my POGUEVISION DVD, has this verse (or something to that affect) as well.

Iain
I have an early live version of Fiesta where the second verse starts something like this:

"Señor Fearnley is drunk and crazy
He is dancing upon the tables
Señor Fearnley you must forgive me
He is angry with the British Navy"

Since the song is about their time in Almeria I guess there some truth behind these words.

The Spanish verse is also slightly different

Indeed!! The video I have on my POGUEVISION DVD, has this verse (or something to that affect) as well.

Iain
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:50 am

fluke wrote:I think if you have patience someone will give you a confirmation. Do not know it will be Jem, don't think it will be joey :wink:, but other forum members will know and maybe even mr Chevron will shine his light on this one..


It is definitely Jem, but possibly Joey also.
[quote="fluke"]I think if you have patience someone will give you a confirmation. Do not know it will be Jem, don't think it will be joey :wink:, but other forum members will know and maybe even mr Chevron will shine his light on this one..[/quote]

It is definitely Jem, but possibly Joey also.
  • Quote mats

Post by mats Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:51 am

I have an early live version of Fiesta where the second verse starts something like this:

"Señor Fearnley is drunk and crazy
He is dancing upon the tables
Señor Fearnley you must forgive me
He is angry with the British Navy"

Since the song is about their time in Almeria I guess there some truth behind these words. :wink:

The Spanish verse is also slightly different.
I have an early live version of Fiesta where the second verse starts something like this:

"Señor Fearnley is drunk and crazy
He is dancing upon the tables
Señor Fearnley you must forgive me
He is angry with the British Navy"

Since the song is about their time in Almeria I guess there some truth behind these words. :wink:

The Spanish verse is also slightly different.
  • Quote John L

Post by John L Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:37 am

Thanks for your time. Hopefuly someone will drop in.
Thanks for your time. Hopefuly someone will drop in.
  • Quote fluke

Post by fluke Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:34 am

http://musikdownload.freenet.de/servlets/2452685223801Dispatch/22/call?htmltemplate=./general/prelisten.htm&lmid=2065501 this is, after short searching, the polka it all started.. At least the first part of it.. I will keep looking for the complete version..

here's another version: http://musikdownload.freenet.de/servlets/2452685223801Dispatch/22/call?htmltemplate=./general/prelisten.htm&lmid=2450200
:D

this one is the funniest I found so far: http://www.muzyczka.pl/midi/00607.mid
[url]http://musikdownload.freenet.de/servlets/2452685223801Dispatch/22/call?htmltemplate=./general/prelisten.htm&lmid=2065501[/url] this is, after short searching, the polka it all started.. At least the first part of it.. I will keep looking for the complete version..

here's another version: [url]http://musikdownload.freenet.de/servlets/2452685223801Dispatch/22/call?htmltemplate=./general/prelisten.htm&lmid=2450200[/url]
:D

this one is the funniest I found so far: [url]http://www.muzyczka.pl/midi/00607.mid[/url]
  • Quote fluke

Post by fluke Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:23 am

I think if you have patience someone will give you a confirmation. Do not know it will be Jem, don't think it will be joey :wink:, but other forum members will know and maybe even mr Chevron will shine his light on this one..
I think if you have patience someone will give you a confirmation. Do not know it will be Jem, don't think it will be joey :wink:, but other forum members will know and maybe even mr Chevron will shine his light on this one..
  • Quote John L

Post by John L Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:20 am

Thanks fluke. Any idea how to contact either sax player to confirm? It is part of a research paper giving credit to the sax players who played solos on Top 40 hits from 1955-2005 in the U.S. and U.K.
Thanks fluke. Any idea how to contact either sax player to confirm? It is part of a research paper giving credit to the sax players who played solos on Top 40 hits from 1955-2005 in the U.S. and U.K.
  • Quote fluke

Post by fluke Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:09 am

the record cover says jem played sax on iisffgwg. Cashman played tenor sax (?)

when I was looking for an answer at your question I found this and thought it was a great insight. (It's probably known to all of you)


Fiesta

Philip Chevron: "Fiesta actually came out from our time in Spain. This song is about the time we were in Almeria filming 'Straight To Hell'. We had peculiar hours. We would get up at six in the morning and drive to the set, which was about twenty-five miles from the hotel. This meant that we had to get to bed relatively early, which was difficult enough for The Pogues. Joe Strummer got around the travelling by never leaving the set, he slept in a car. He only came into Almeria for the scenes that needed to be filmed there. The actual hotel in the film is the one we stayed in. Typically we would get back at eight o' clock have a bite to eat and a few drinks to unwind and then go to bed. We were filming at Fiesta time, and the Spanish take their Fiestas very seriously. The problem with the Fiesta is that they start at sun down and continue to sun up. That wouldn't be too bad except the noise of the fiesta is something else. All through the time we were in Almeria there was two tunes that kept playing, they came like Chinese water torture. It would stop for five minutes and then start again. The first tune was what we made the main tune in 'Fiesta' and the other one was the coming from the doll-selling stall. You know the line 'will you kindly kill a doll for me'!

The slogan coming over the PA was the guy on the stall shouting the Spanish for 'come and wine a Chochana'. So, these two songs were alternating in our heads like some horrendous and hellish nightmare. We were still in character when your trying to sleep with these noises and all the red wine that we drinking too didn't help. We started coming back from the set thinking we were real cowboys and Indians, it was like great method acting. Reality and fiction got very blurred. 'Fiesta' doesn't really mean anything, expect this colossal bad dream where everybody gets transformed and everybody's personalities are exaggerated. Shane caught this by making cartoon characters out of everyone. The Sumtuosa was Cait O' Riordain, who is a well-endowed lady. Jamie Fearnley was a play on the fact James was the only one who spoke any Spanish. We just burlesqued the whole experience into one song. Shane and Jem pretty much wrote it. It turned out later that we also had to pay the people who wrote that main tune. It turned out to be a Liechtenstein polka. We had no way of finding out so we decided 'lets just do it' and if anyway says 'you knicked that' we would pay them."

(from an interview at Shanemacgowan.com website)
the record cover says jem played sax on iisffgwg. Cashman played tenor sax (?)

when I was looking for an answer at your question I found this and thought it was a great insight. (It's probably known to all of you)


Fiesta

Philip Chevron: "Fiesta actually came out from our time in Spain. This song is about the time we were in Almeria filming 'Straight To Hell'. We had peculiar hours. We would get up at six in the morning and drive to the set, which was about twenty-five miles from the hotel. This meant that we had to get to bed relatively early, which was difficult enough for The Pogues. Joe Strummer got around the travelling by never leaving the set, he slept in a car. He only came into Almeria for the scenes that needed to be filmed there. The actual hotel in the film is the one we stayed in. Typically we would get back at eight o' clock have a bite to eat and a few drinks to unwind and then go to bed. We were filming at Fiesta time, and the Spanish take their Fiestas very seriously. The problem with the Fiesta is that they start at sun down and continue to sun up. That wouldn't be too bad except the noise of the fiesta is something else. All through the time we were in Almeria there was two tunes that kept playing, they came like Chinese water torture. It would stop for five minutes and then start again. The first tune was what we made the main tune in 'Fiesta' and the other one was the coming from the doll-selling stall. You know the line 'will you kindly kill a doll for me'!

The slogan coming over the PA was the guy on the stall shouting the Spanish for 'come and wine a Chochana'. So, these two songs were alternating in our heads like some horrendous and hellish nightmare. We were still in character when your trying to sleep with these noises and all the red wine that we drinking too didn't help. We started coming back from the set thinking we were real cowboys and Indians, it was like great method acting. Reality and fiction got very blurred. 'Fiesta' doesn't really mean anything, expect this colossal bad dream where everybody gets transformed and everybody's personalities are exaggerated. Shane caught this by making cartoon characters out of everyone. The Sumtuosa was Cait O' Riordain, who is a well-endowed lady. Jamie Fearnley was a play on the fact James was the only one who spoke any Spanish. We just burlesqued the whole experience into one song. Shane and Jem pretty much wrote it. It turned out later that we also had to pay the people who wrote that main tune. It turned out to be a Liechtenstein polka. We had no way of finding out so we decided 'lets just do it' and if anyway says 'you knicked that' we would pay them."

(from an interview at Shanemacgowan.com website)
  • Quote John L

"Fiesta" by the Pogues

Post by John L Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:00 am

Did Jem Finer play the tenor sax intro or was it played by another studio musician? Thanks.
Did Jem Finer play the tenor sax intro or was it played by another studio musician? Thanks.

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