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  • Quote Jonahs Lift

Re: On leaving the Pogues (Guardian interview)

Post by Jonahs Lift Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:58 am

You can come and play with us any day, my dear! After all, it is your fault I am in the business, so it is only fair that you pay me back!!!!!

I hope you are well, Cait. We both have lots still to give!

Wayne
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You can come and play with us any day, my dear! After all, it is your fault I am in the business, so it is only fair that you pay me back!!!!!

I hope you are well, Cait. We both have lots still to give!

Wayne
Joanh's Lift
  • Quote territa

Re: On leaving the Pogues (Guardian interview)

Post by territa Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:03 am

Yes, not to mention the sobriety.
Yes, not to mention the sobriety.
  • Quote Eckhard

Re: On leaving the Pogues (Guardian interview)

Post by Eckhard Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:09 am

territa wrote:Yes, a sad story, but with a happy ending. :)



you mean the diploma?
[quote="territa"]Yes, a sad story, but with a happy ending. :)[/quote]


you mean the diploma?
  • Quote territa

Re: On leaving the Pogues (Guardian interview)

Post by territa Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:06 am

Yes, a sad story, but with a happy ending. :)
Yes, a sad story, but with a happy ending. :)
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Re: On leaving the Pogues (Guardian interview)

Post by Eckhard Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:38 am

Pretty sad story, isn't it?
Pretty sad story, isn't it?
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On leaving the Pogues (Guardian interview)

Post by firehazard Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:32 am

Cait speaks about leaving the band (from a longer feature on people who've left bands, by Dave Simpson and published today in the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/ju ... -bandmates):

'I was toxic and depressed'
Cait O'Riordan
Bassist, the Pogues, 1982-1986

In the 1980s, the Pogues had it all: critical acclaim and commercial success. By walking out when she did, O'Riordan missed singing on their biggest hit - 1987's Christmas No 2, Fairytale of New York, sung instead by Kirsty MacColl.

I was a very angry, dysfunctional teenager from a dysfunctional family, who was living in hostels. Music was a classic gloomy teenager's outlet and after school I'd go to Camden in search of vinyl. Shane [MacGowan] was working in a record shop. We went for a drink and he said, "You can be the bass player." I had a bass but couldn't play it; the band took the time to say, "Put this finger there." I had no talent except for causing trouble, and I joined the coolest band in London.

The band were always having to get me out of scraps. I'd start fights I couldn't possibly finish. They tolerated me, because most of the people in the band were the same, and - this was soon after punk rock - an obnoxious teenager who liked to get drunk and fight probably looked like a cool character. I can remember fragments, like being on stage at Glasgow Barrowlands and feeling like it was the best thing in the world. But I never realised how lucky I was. [After beginning a relationship with Pogues producer Elvis Costello] I felt I'd outstayed my welcome. I didn't regret leaving: I was always absolutely certain I was right.

I was financially secure, which enabled me to get deeper into alcohol. I rejoined the Pogues in 2002 for a two-week tour, but they didn't ask me back and I don't blame them. They're older guys; most of them don't drink now. I was toxic and dysfunctional. I told a doctor that I was either developing schizophrenia or possessed. [In 2003] I had a breakdown, aged 38. The doctor put me in a psychiatric hospital and they diagnosed me as having depression; I had probably had it for a very long time. The psychiatrist said, "You've built a crust around you." It was revelatory.

I'm a completely different person now. I go to the gym. I'm studying to become a psychologist. Money and success just brought unhappiness, but I desperately miss playing. If anyone needs a bass player, call me. When I was doing my exams, there was a poster up for the Pogues, who were playing in the same building. I thought, "I wish there was someone I could talk to about how weird this feels".
Cait speaks about leaving the band (from a longer feature on people who've left bands, by Dave Simpson and published today in the [i]Guardian[/i] http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/02/oasis-babyshambles-pulp-pogues-bandmates):

[b]'I was toxic and depressed'[/b]
Cait O'Riordan
Bassist, the Pogues, 1982-1986

[i]In the 1980s, the Pogues had it all: critical acclaim and commercial success. By walking out when she did, O'Riordan missed singing on their biggest hit - 1987's Christmas No 2, Fairytale of New York, sung instead by Kirsty MacColl.[/i]

I was a very angry, dysfunctional teenager from a dysfunctional family, who was living in hostels. Music was a classic gloomy teenager's outlet and after school I'd go to Camden in search of vinyl. Shane [MacGowan] was working in a record shop. We went for a drink and he said, "You can be the bass player." I had a bass but couldn't play it; the band took the time to say, "Put this finger there." I had no talent except for causing trouble, and I joined the coolest band in London.

The band were always having to get me out of scraps. I'd start fights I couldn't possibly finish. They tolerated me, because most of the people in the band were the same, and - this was soon after punk rock - an obnoxious teenager who liked to get drunk and fight probably looked like a cool character. I can remember fragments, like being on stage at Glasgow Barrowlands and feeling like it was the best thing in the world. But I never realised how lucky I was. [After beginning a relationship with Pogues producer Elvis Costello] I felt I'd outstayed my welcome. I didn't regret leaving: I was always absolutely certain I was right.

I was financially secure, which enabled me to get deeper into alcohol. I rejoined the Pogues in 2002 for a two-week tour, but they didn't ask me back and I don't blame them. They're older guys; most of them don't drink now. I was toxic and dysfunctional. I told a doctor that I was either developing schizophrenia or possessed. [In 2003] I had a breakdown, aged 38. The doctor put me in a psychiatric hospital and they diagnosed me as having depression; I had probably had it for a very long time. The psychiatrist said, "You've built a crust around you." It was revelatory.

I'm a completely different person now. I go to the gym. I'm studying to become a psychologist. Money and success just brought unhappiness, but I desperately miss playing. If anyone needs a bass player, call me. When I was doing my exams, there was a poster up for the Pogues, who were playing in the same building. I thought, "I wish there was someone I could talk to about how weird this feels".

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