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Re: Microphones for whistles.

Post by Pyro Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:46 pm

Silver Quest: Hello - I actually experienced the same problem. On tour with the Hogs, I could hear myself well on 3 gigs, other 4 were not very good.

On those 4 "bad" gigs, I played with the blade almost glued to the mic...and it didn´t help that much.

Of course, you can talk to the sound engineer and tell him, you want mostly your whistle in the fold-back. But that won´t change your overall volume. I think if you tell the sound engineer, you have to have some sort of powerful mic, or pre-amp, he should do it for you. Other than that, I can´t think of anything better.

Re: Microphones for whistles.

Post by philipchevron Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:09 pm

Silver Quest wrote:HELP!

I am responsible for the sound for a time-served Folk-Rock band and have been invited to play whistle on the odd tune and actually lead one! The band are excellent, but I am merely adequate! My problem is getting the volume out of the whistle so I do not have to turn the rest of the band down for my lead piece. I have tried different positions, a £150 Senheisser, and I am now at the point of buying a clip on if I can not sort it this month!

Any suggestions out there please?

Is it just about precise location of the fipple and the mic? I have tried every position, but can not get a signal on the desk to rise over -20dbs with full gain on the desk!!!

I already where headphones to quell any feedback, but how is it that Spider can play without feedback? Does he have his fold-back turned right down? I can not play unless I can hear the fold-back as my ambient whistle is drowned by the rest of the band. The other thought was for a pre-amp in-line -

Thanks!
Mr. Mediocresoundandwhistleman.

PS Who do we contact to request permission to cover a Pogues number?


Hmm, can't comment on the fipple and mic, I'm afraid. Have you tried a larger PA at all? Spider gets plenty of whistle in his foldback, as far as I can tell.

No permission is required to do our songs once we've done them, though you are required not to fuck with them too much and to pay all the relevant copyright agencies.

Re: Microphones for whistles.

Post by Silver Quest Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am

HELP!

I am responsible for the sound for a time-served Folk-Rock band and have been invited to play whistle on the odd tune and actually lead one! The band are excellent, but I am merely adequate! My problem is getting the volume out of the whistle so I do not have to turn the rest of the band down for my lead piece. I have tried different positions, a £150 Senheisser, and I am now at the point of buying a clip on if I can not sort it this month!

Any suggestions out there please?

Is it just about precise location of the fipple and the mic? I have tried every position, but can not get a signal on the desk to rise over -20dbs with full gain on the desk!!!

I already where headphones to quell any feedback, but how is it that Spider can play without feedback? Does he have his fold-back turned right down? I can not play unless I can hear the fold-back as my ambient whistle is drowned by the rest of the band. The other thought was for a pre-amp in-line -

Thanks!
Mr. Mediocresoundandwhistleman.

PS Who do we contact to request permission to cover a Pogues number?

Re: Solution

Post by Heather Thu May 04, 2006 10:22 am

Fintan wrote:
Heather wrote:How do you breathe? :? Oh yeah thought your mouth, stupid cow.

:lol: :lol: :wink:
I have a bad habit of playing whistles like a pipers' chanter, with the whistle in one corner of my mouth and breathing through the other one.


So do I, Fintan.

Re: Solution

Post by Behan Thu May 04, 2006 1:42 am

Behan wrote:You're from DownUnder mate! I'm sure you had an Aboriginal tribe member show you circular breathing once. I still can't get it too well. The only place I can go is to the Outback Steakhouse that can be found in every town of the USA.


But I'm sure any of their waiters and waitresses don't even know where Australia is on the map, much less know circular breathing or didjeridoos and such. I need to call back my mandolin maker in New Zealand so, I'll see ya.
I called him up today (or tomorrow over there), but it was 2am over there. I forgot about the time difference between here and New Zealand!! :oops: :oops:

Re: Solution

Post by CraigBatty Wed May 03, 2006 11:22 pm

Behan wrote:...Outback Steakhouse that can be found in every town of the USA.

:shock: Strewth cobber! Fair dinkum, I figured the Free Trade Agreement was all one-sided, but now I see that our colonial plans for kulturkampf proceed unabated! Excellent! Soon you will all be eating pies and drinkin' stubbies like a buncha bonzer ocker blokes and sheilas, or else yez'll all look like drongos. :lol: And Chairman Johnny don't take kindly to drongos, too right he don't mate.
And as fer circular breathing...
"...the bubbles in the bong..." :wink:

Re: Solution

Post by Behan Wed May 03, 2006 10:49 pm

Fintan wrote:
Heather wrote:How do you breathe? :? Oh yeah thought your mouth, stupid cow.

:lol: :lol: :wink:
I have a bad habit of playing whistles like a pipers' chanter, with the whistle in one corner of my mouth and breathing through the other one. Not always, but it's a bad habit nonetheless. My nose-breathing is sometimes loud in the mike; particularly, I discovered, in recording. It's really just a matter of me taking the time to actually practice, and working out my phrasing so that the breaths are both logically and practically placed in the tune. I have another bad habit of playing tunes from tunebooks instead of memorising them too :oops:


You're from DownUnder mate! I'm sure you had an Aboriginal tribe member show you circular breathing once. I still can't get it too well. The only place I can go is to the Outback Steakhouse that can be found in every town of the USA.

Re: Solution

Post by CraigBatty Wed May 03, 2006 8:20 pm

Heather wrote:How do you breathe? :? Oh yeah thought your mouth, stupid cow.

:lol: :lol: :wink:
I have a bad habit of playing whistles like a pipers' chanter, with the whistle in one corner of my mouth and breathing through the other one. Not always, but it's a bad habit nonetheless. My nose-breathing is sometimes loud in the mike; particularly, I discovered, in recording. It's really just a matter of me taking the time to actually practice, and working out my phrasing so that the breaths are both logically and practically placed in the tune. I have another bad habit of playing tunes from tunebooks instead of memorising them too :oops:

Re: Solution

Post by Heather Wed May 03, 2006 10:37 am

Behan wrote:I got It!!!

Place one of those clip mics on your Schnozz. The most perfect place, because wherever the whistle is being played, your schnozz will be right above :wink: :wink:


How do you breathe? :? Oh yeah thought your mouth, stupid cow.

Re: Solution

Post by CraigBatty Wed May 03, 2006 4:47 am

Behan wrote:I got It!!!

Place one of those clip mics on your Schnozz. The most perfect place, because wherever the whistle is being played, your schnozz will be right above :wink: :wink:

Lunatic. :lol: :lol: :lol: Do the clips come in Jimmy "Dat's My Boy Who Said Dat!" Durante size? :lol: :wink:

Solution

Post by Behan Wed May 03, 2006 12:57 am

I got It!!!

Place one of those clip mics on your Schnozz. The most perfect place, because wherever the whistle is being played, your schnozz will be right above :wink: :wink:

Post by CraigBatty Tue May 02, 2006 8:38 pm

Pogues Whistle Player wrote:Fintan, if you drill into your whistle it will destoy the tone. At least i would imagine it would....

Thanks Spider, yeah I know re: the drilling thing. There are some bud mikes out there, apparently, that require being mounted via a small hole, which would have to be caulked up after installing the mike, I'd imagine. Sounds like too much palaver to me, so....
Cheers again for the reply. Roger, wilco, over and out. :)

Post by Pogues Whistle Player Tue May 02, 2006 7:34 pm

Fintan, if you drill into your whistle it will destoy the tone. At least i would imagine it would...Anyway, I've never used any kind of clip on , just my vocal mic. I like staying in one place. and anyway, there's enough gaps for me to have a wander around should i get a bit bored.

Post by CraigBatty Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:57 pm

Behan wrote:... If you could get the whistle to do that, let me know. That would be Total FREEDOM! :wink:

FREEDOM! *urrgh, that made me think of Mel Gibson* Freedom!
Thanks fer the tip Behan. Gods bless you and all who sail in you! I shall attempt to acquire one of these delicious sounding microphones ASAP, posthaste even. :)

Post by Behan Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:32 pm

There are a few very good wireless Lavalier Mics (the tie-clip mic) out there Fintan. I used one for a small accordion I was playing in a band in the early 90's. Just go to your music store and have a look at the wireless lavalier mics and figure out how you can attach it to the fipple part of your whistle. I've seen flute players do this. They run all around stage unwired, yet playing. If you could get the whistle to do that, let me know. That would be Total FREEDOM! :wink:

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