Skip to content


Advanced search
  • Board index ‹ Outside The Pogues ‹ Shane MacGowan
  • Syndication
  • Change font size
  • FAQ
  • Members
  • Register
  • Login

The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post a reply

Question Which do you wear on your feet: shoes, gloves, scarf:
This question is a means of preventing automated form submissions by spambots.
Smilies
:D :) :( :o :shock: :? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :wink: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen:
BBCode is ON
[img] is ON
[flash] is OFF
[url] is ON
Smilies are ON
Topic review
   
  • Options

Expand view Topic review: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by RoddyRuddy Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:40 pm

http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.php? ... age&pID=22
http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.php? ... age&pID=22
New book;
The Exchange, Thoughts on Faith, Art, Science and Culture By Jeff Frohner and Brian Whelan
http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.php
http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=22
http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=22
New book;
The Exchange, Thoughts on Faith, Art, Science and Culture By Jeff Frohner and Brian Whelan
http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.php
  • Quote Goof

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by Goof Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:46 pm

Great great album. One of the more pleasantly surprising releases I bought in 2009 (and I buy a lot of music). I still give it a regular spin now and then. I hope they will keep on making great records, but on a more regular basis and hope to catch them live sometime soon.
Great great album. One of the more pleasantly surprising releases I bought in 2009 (and I buy a lot of music). I still give it a regular spin now and then. I hope they will keep on making great records, but on a more regular basis and hope to catch them live sometime soon.
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by RoddyRuddy Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:29 pm

An exhibition of paintings by Brian Whelan
inspired by sacred spaces around the world.
Reception: Thursday 8 July 2010, 7:00pm – 9:00pm
Exhibition: 4 - 18 July 2010
Hours: M-Th 9:30am – 12:30pm
Sunday during services
39 Elm Bank Gardens
Barnes, London, SW13 ONX
Twenty percent of all sales will go to the church council

http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.htm
An exhibition of paintings by Brian Whelan
inspired by sacred spaces around the world.
Reception: Thursday 8 July 2010, 7:00pm – 9:00pm
Exhibition: 4 - 18 July 2010
Hours: M-Th 9:30am – 12:30pm
Sunday during services
39 Elm Bank Gardens
Barnes, London, SW13 ONX
Twenty percent of all sales will go to the church council

http://www.brianwhelan.co.uk/index.htm
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by RoddyRuddy Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:51 pm

http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/17/forme ... tic-music/
http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/17/former-pogue-finds-heaven-in-celtic-music/
  • Quote Mark_Wafc

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by Mark_Wafc Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:57 am

I picked a this album up from a record exchange in Manchester last week for less than a fiver, it was a pre release copy, and i've got to say i like it.

Shane sounds like he has a bad cold on Outlaw Heaven sound wise, but apart from that some very decent songs on there.

I was more that a bit surprised with it i'll be honest.
I picked a this album up from a record exchange in Manchester last week for less than a fiver, it was a pre release copy, and i've got to say i like it.

Shane sounds like he has a bad cold on Outlaw Heaven sound wise, but apart from that some very decent songs on there.

I was more that a bit surprised with it i'll be honest.
  • Quote Eckhard

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by Eckhard Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:34 pm

Reading about Paul McGuiness and his musical efforts always makes me sad somehow.
Reading about Paul McGuiness and his musical efforts always makes me sad somehow.
  • Quote Low D

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by Low D Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:33 am

I have to say that the big surprise for me is how much i like this album. It got a lot of play over the summer in the van.

What with most of Holloway Blvd's writing credits reading McGuiness/McManamon, i thought it wasn't going to fly without the late Tom McManamon. And to be sure, this is not the same band at all that put out Holloway Blvd - it's Paul McGuiness & a new group. The sound is different. It's way less trad, way more rock - more Thin Lizzy than Pogues, perhaps, but i really like it.

I mean, they would do without some of those back up vocals (a bit stupidly over the top on "Back In YOur Heart", "Crucified" & "Boys Don't Cry") and McGuiness is certainly no MacGowan when it comes to writing a lyric (but who is?) I think "Black is the Colour" is fantastic. And "Raw", which i had heard as a demo and was not overly impressed, turned out stunning - sounds like it could have come off a Ron Kavana album. I mean, there's a couple of stinkers ("Crucified" Paul, really? Did we need that? And "Back In Your Heart" sounds like it wants to be on AM radio) but overall i was expecting disapointment & was plesantly surprised.
I have to say that the big surprise for me is how much i like this album. It got a lot of play over the summer in the van.

What with most of [i]Holloway Blvd[/i]'s writing credits reading McGuiness/McManamon, i thought it wasn't going to fly without the late Tom McManamon. And to be sure, this is not the same band at all that put out [i]Holloway Blvd[/i] - it's Paul McGuiness & a new group. The sound is different. It's way less trad, way more rock - more Thin Lizzy than Pogues, perhaps, but i really like it.

I mean, they would do without some of those back up vocals (a bit stupidly over the top on "Back In YOur Heart", "Crucified" & "Boys Don't Cry") and McGuiness is certainly no MacGowan when it comes to writing a lyric (but who is?) I think "Black is the Colour" is fantastic. And "Raw", which i had heard as a demo and was not overly impressed, turned out stunning - sounds like it could have come off a Ron Kavana album. I mean, there's a couple of stinkers ("Crucified" Paul, really? Did we need that? And "Back In Your Heart" sounds like it wants to be on AM radio) but overall i was expecting disapointment & was plesantly surprised.
  • Quote fake OIroishRoiveir

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by fake OIroishRoiveir Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:24 am

oi saoid oit oince, oi'll repeat oit agaoin - poietry aoin't foir #&/*-/ (managers..)
as oif thois guy here stands(undertstands) as a true fan of Shane MacGowan & The Popes, goimme a break !

yeah, he'd loist hemself, sadly foir hem, he'll never get there, last oi've heard they doin't take oin managers 'n' poiseurs oin Oiutlaw Heaven; gruntoin', hes letters & death woishes are the oines gruntoin', gruntoin'..
oi saoid oit oince, oi'll repeat oit agaoin - poietry aoin't foir #&/*-/ (managers..)
as oif thois guy here stands(undertstands) as a true fan of Shane MacGowan & The Popes, goimme a break !

yeah, he'd loist hemself, sadly foir hem, he'll never get there, last oi've heard they doin't take oin managers 'n' poiseurs oin Oiutlaw Heaven; gruntoin', hes letters & death woishes are the oines gruntoin', gruntoin'..
  • Quote kintaro hattori

The New Popes CD

Post by kintaro hattori Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:16 am

Just letting everyone know that the new Popes CD is sheit.
The cover says "FEATURING SHANE MACGOWAN" That is a fraudulent lie. Last song has him singing.

I am so pissed. Almost 20 bucks for an import that sounds like Joe Cocker is signing...

D- at best.

Kintaro
Just letting everyone know that the new Popes CD is sheit.
The cover says "FEATURING SHANE MACGOWAN" That is a fraudulent lie. Last song has him singing.

I am so pissed. Almost 20 bucks for an import that sounds like Joe Cocker is signing...

D- at best.

Kintaro
  • Quote IrishRover

Re: "Outlaw Heaven" reviewed w/ obvious Pogues references

Post by IrishRover Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:19 am

"The judgements may be harsh, the judgements may be wroing, never have doiubt, ye goitta keep oin, goitta keep oin, goitta keep oin, goitta keep oin walkoin' oin.."
Angels Are Coimoin'
by The Popes
"The judgements may be harsh, the judgements may be wroing, never have doiubt, ye goitta keep oin, goitta keep oin, goitta keep oin, goitta keep oin walkoin' oin.."
Angels Are Coimoin'
by The Popes
  • Quote IrishRover

Re: "Outlaw Heaven" reviewed w/ obvious Pogues references

Post by IrishRover Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:00 am

FAY wrote:Andy writes, "For those looking forward to this album as a return to the glory days of The Snake- too much vodka and soda has flowed under the bridge..."


oi saoid oit oince, oi'll repeat oit agaoin - poietry aoin't foir #&/*-/ (managers..)
as oif thois guy here stands(undertstands) as a true fan of Shane MacGowan & The Popes, goimme a break, quasoi-artoistoic revoiew shalloiw & tasteless as the very soida he mentions !

FAY wrote:.." I would list more but I can't make out hardly any of the names Shane grunts. Spider Stacy's on there too - singing that is, not in the list of the dead people, but if he hangs round with these two for too long he might well be."


yeah, he'd loist hemself, sadly foir hem, he'll never get there, last oi've heard they doin't take oin managers 'n' poiseurs oin Oiutlaw Heaven; gruntoin', hes letters & death woishes are the oines gruntoin', gruntoin'..

FAY wrote:..'The Loneliness of a Long Distant Drinker.' It sounds like it should be great, except that Shane's vocals don't sound like they used to. I mean, Johnny Cash, when he was dying- on American Recordings V- he still sounded pretty damn good..."


THOISE LOINES ARE ACTUALLY AMOING ME FAVOIUROITES AND SHANEO DOIES EM' GRAND !
"Goit the crazy thoiughts of a mad relentless thoinker, goit the loinelyness of a loing doistance droinker !"
A few days ago oi was just sendoin' a coimment to MadDog, regardoin' thois very loine, poietry !
Thois manageroial revoiewer had to.. he had to mention Johnny Cash as well, leave Johnny oin peace, oim sure he needs no manageroial praoisoin' froim people loike ye.

FAY wrote:"...don't buy this because it features Shane Macgowan- you will be disappointed."


:?
[quote="FAY"]Andy writes, "For those looking forward to this album as a return to the glory days of [i][b]The Snake[/b][/i]- too much vodka and soda has flowed under the bridge..."[/quote]

oi saoid oit oince, oi'll repeat oit agaoin - poietry aoin't foir #&/*-/ (managers..)
as oif thois guy here stands(undertstands) as a true fan of Shane MacGowan & The Popes, goimme a break, quasoi-artoistoic revoiew shalloiw & tasteless as the very soida he mentions !

[quote="FAY"].." I would list more but I can't make out hardly any of the names Shane grunts. [b]Spider Stacy's[/b] on there too - singing that is, not in the list of the dead people, but if he hangs round with these two for too long he might well be."
[/quote]

yeah, he'd loist hemself, sadly foir hem, he'll never get there, last oi've heard they doin't take oin managers 'n' poiseurs oin Oiutlaw Heaven; gruntoin', hes letters & death woishes are the oines gruntoin', gruntoin'..

[quote="FAY"]..'The Loneliness of a Long Distant Drinker.' It sounds like it should be great, except that Shane's vocals don't sound like they used to. I mean, [i]Johnny Cash[/i], when he was dying- on [i]American Recordings V[/i]- he still sounded pretty damn good..."[/quote]

THOISE LOINES ARE ACTUALLY AMOING ME FAVOIUROITES AND SHANEO DOIES EM' GRAND !
"Goit the crazy thoiughts of a mad relentless thoinker, goit the loinelyness of a loing doistance droinker !"
A few days ago oi was just sendoin' a coimment to MadDog, regardoin' thois very loine, poietry !
Thois manageroial revoiewer had to.. he had to mention Johnny Cash as well, leave Johnny oin peace, oim sure he needs no manageroial praoisoin' froim people loike ye.

[quote="FAY"]
"...don't buy this because it features Shane Macgowan- you will be disappointed."[/quote]

:?
  • Quote FAY

"Outlaw Heaven" reviewed w/ obvious Pogues references

Post by FAY Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:03 pm

The Outlaw Paul McGuinness - Andy Wilkinson on the Popes new offering 'Outlaw Heaven' and why sometimes if you fight the law you get some work done. - September 2009 / The Irish Herald

Sorry, there is no electronic version. The Irish Herald/The New Irish Gael is a free, monthly California paper. Andy Wilkinson is its music critic and has written favorably in the past about Pogues American Tours, Radiators album review, etc. Overall, it's a positive review in favor of Paul McGuinness and his music, but less-so of Shane's performance.

(Oh, well. But, good for Mad Dog and Co.)

Andy writes, "...Featuring Shane Macgowan, as it appears on the sleeve here, will undoubtedly sell a few more copies, as his return to the Pogues will sell tickets to their October North American Tour. For those looking forward to those shows - they will be good nights out, I'm sure. For those looking forward to this album as a return to the glory days of The Snake- too much vodka and soda has flowed under the bridge..."

(And, I thought Shane was a gin and/or wine man? And, yes! I'm looking forward to (atleast) the 2 shows in SF!)

He goes on, "...There's a brilliant chorus, too, and a bit at the end where Paul and Shane freestyle over the groove, naming various dead people they admire, from James Joyce to Janis Joplin. I would list more but I can't make out hardly any of the names Shane grunts. Spider Stacy's on there too - singing that is, not in the list of the dead people, but if he hangs round with these two for too long he might well be."

(I've met Spider a few times recently and he's doing just fine, thank you very much!)

And, offers, "...The album closes with the third song featuring Shane Macgowan- this one a solo lament entitled, 'The Loneliness of a Long Distant Drinker.' It sounds like it should be great, except that Shane's vocals don't sound like they used to. I mean, Johnny Cash, when he was dying- on American Recordings V- he still sounded pretty damn good..."

(Apples to oranges.)

Finally, "...don't buy this because it features Shane Macgowan- you will be disappointed." But, he does insist, "...Buy it because Mad Dog went to prison and got a lot done."

(I would buy it if it was offered on vinyl.)

So, there you have it, folks. Personally, I'm happy that Shane and Spider are actively participating in new, studio recordings together again, but discouraged by the assumption that reviews such as this are indicative of - albeit, one of several reasons - why the others are non-comital about a new recording.

(Rick Rubin, please call Pogues Management pronto. Help me, Rick Rubin. You're our only hope.)

Anyway- inevitably, there is likely to be a feature/announcement/review of the 2009 West Coast Tour in upcoming editions of the Irish Herald and I'll be sure to share it with you all.

See you in October, Pogues!
[i][b]The Outlaw Paul McGuinness[/b] - Andy Wilkinson on the Popes new offering 'Outlaw Heaven' and why sometimes if you fight the law you get some work done.[/i] - [b]September 2009 / The Irish Herald[/b]

Sorry, there is no electronic version. [i]The Irish Herald/The New Irish Gae[/i]l is a free, monthly California paper. Andy Wilkinson is its music critic and has written favorably in the past about [b]Pogues[/b] American Tours, [b]Radiators[/b] album review, etc. Overall, it's a positive review in favor of [b]Paul McGuinness[/b] and his music, but less-so of Shane's performance.

[i](Oh, well. But, good for Mad Dog and Co.)[/i]

Andy writes, "...Featuring [b]Shane Macgowan[/b], as it appears on the sleeve here, will undoubtedly sell a few more copies, as his return to the [b]Pogues[/b] will sell tickets to their October North American Tour. For those looking forward to those shows - they will be good nights out, I'm sure. For those looking forward to this album as a return to the glory days of [i][b]The Snake[/b][/i]- too much vodka and soda has flowed under the bridge..."

[i](And, I thought Shane was a gin and/or wine man? And, yes! I'm looking forward to (atleast) the 2 shows in SF!)[/i]

He goes on, "...There's a brilliant chorus, too, and a bit at the end where Paul and Shane freestyle over the groove, naming various dead people they admire, from [i]James Joyce[/i] to [i]Janis Joplin[/i]. I would list more but I can't make out hardly any of the names Shane grunts. [b]Spider Stacy's[/b] on there too - singing that is, not in the list of the dead people, but if he hangs round with these two for too long he might well be."

[i](I've met Spider a few times recently and he's doing just fine, thank you very much!)[/i]

And, offers, "...The album closes with the third song featuring Shane Macgowan- this one a solo lament entitled, 'The Loneliness of a Long Distant Drinker.' It sounds like it should be great, except that Shane's vocals don't sound like they used to. I mean, [i]Johnny Cash[/i], when he was dying- on [i]American Recordings V[/i]- he still sounded pretty damn good..."

[i](Apples to oranges.)[/i]

Finally, "...don't buy this because it features Shane Macgowan- you will be disappointed." But, he does insist, "...Buy it because Mad Dog went to prison and got a lot done."

[i](I would buy it if it was offered on vinyl.)[/i]

So, there you have it, [i]folks[/i]. Personally, I'm happy that Shane and Spider are actively participating in new, studio recordings together again, but discouraged by the assumption that reviews such as this are indicative of - albeit, one of several reasons - why [i]the others[/i] are non-comital about a new recording.

[i]([b]Rick Rubin[/b], please call Pogues Management pronto. Help me, Rick Rubin. You're our only hope.)[/i]

Anyway- inevitably, there is likely to be a feature/announcement/review of the 2009 West Coast Tour in upcoming editions of [i]the Irish Herald[/i] and I'll be sure to share it with you all.

See you in October, Pogues!
  • Quote IrishRover

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by IrishRover Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:46 pm

can't recall the dates, there was that 1 majoir goig Shaneo was scheduled to appear but cancelled..
was thois the very oine ?
can't recall the dates, there was that 1 majoir goig Shaneo was scheduled to appear but cancelled..
was thois the very oine ?
  • Quote Mark_Wafc

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by Mark_Wafc Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:02 pm

IrishRover wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHXKjEDkYQY


Just before that song, do you think he said "Shane has just called, he cant make it tonight i'm afraid...but we will play you a few tunes anyway" and then emptied a can of guiness over his head??
[quote="IrishRover"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHXKjEDkYQY[/quote]

Just before that song, do you think he said "Shane has just called, he cant make it tonight i'm afraid...but we will play you a few tunes anyway" and then emptied a can of guiness over his head??
  • Quote IrishRover

Re: The Popes new album - Outlaw Heaven

Post by IrishRover Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:10 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHXKjEDkYQY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHXKjEDkYQY

Top

  • Board index
  • The team • Delete all board cookies • All times are UTC


Powered by phpBB
Content © copyright the original authors unless otherwise indicated