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  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: MacGowan and the IRA

Post by Fr. McGreer Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:43 pm

DzM wrote:
invisiblehelper wrote:Erm, one wee thing which may seem a bit pedantic I know however McGowan was born in Tunbridge Wells. You don't get much more English!

So long as we're being pedantic - It's "MacGowan."


Growing up in England and spending all your holidays at home in Ireland really does make the grá for the oul sod very intense at different times during your life. Whilst I can only imagine that devouring copious amounts of Irish literature, folklore, laudanum and potín would give you a slightly rose tinted view of your own past.
[quote="DzM"][quote="invisiblehelper"]Erm, one wee thing which may seem a bit pedantic I know however McGowan was born in Tunbridge Wells. You don't get much more English![/quote]
So long as we're being pedantic - It's "MacGowan."[/quote]

Growing up in England and spending all your holidays at home in Ireland really does make the grá for the oul sod very intense at different times during your life. Whilst I can only imagine that devouring copious amounts of Irish literature, folklore, laudanum and potín would give you a slightly rose tinted view of your own past.
  • Quote DzM

Re: MacGowan and the IRA

Post by DzM Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:47 am

invisiblehelper wrote:Erm, one wee thing which may seem a bit pedantic I know however McGowan was born in Tunbridge Wells. You don't get much more English!

So long as we're being pedantic - It's "MacGowan."
[quote="invisiblehelper"]Erm, one wee thing which may seem a bit pedantic I know however McGowan was born in Tunbridge Wells. You don't get much more English![/quote]
So long as we're being pedantic - It's "MacGowan."
  • Quote invisiblehelper

Re: MacGowan and the IRA

Post by invisiblehelper Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:20 am

Erm, one wee thing which may seem a bit pedantic I know however McGowan was born in Tunbridge Wells. You don't get much more English!
Erm, one wee thing which may seem a bit pedantic I know however McGowan was born in Tunbridge Wells. You don't get much more English!
  • Quote DownInTheGround

Post by DownInTheGround Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:03 pm

hehe OIrish, I love you green tinted perception of Ireland
hehe OIrish, I love you green tinted perception of Ireland
  • Quote IrishRover

Post by IrishRover Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:22 pm

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  • Quote dawson

Post by dawson Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:39 pm

Top o da mornin to ya oirish
Top o da mornin to ya oirish
  • Quote IrishRover

Post by IrishRover Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:14 pm

dawsonn wrote:
"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.


somebody shut him up! :lol: hes sounds lioke the oirish roiver


ahhhh, thats the noices comploiment oi could get 8)
[quote="dawsonn"][quote]"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.[/quote]

somebody shut him up! :lol: hes sounds lioke the oirish roiver[/quote]

ahhhh, thats the noices comploiment oi could get 8)
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:18 am

dawsonn wrote:"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.

somebody shut him up! :lol: hes sounds lioke the oirish roiver


Never underestimate what a man is prepared to say to his sweetheart to get her to change her mind and marry him. 8)
[quote="dawsonn"]"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.

somebody shut him up! :lol: hes sounds lioke the oirish roiver[/quote]

Never underestimate what a man is prepared to say to his sweetheart to get her to change her mind and marry him. 8)
  • Quote dawsonn

Post by dawsonn Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:33 am

"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.


somebody shut him up! :lol: hes sounds lioke the oirish roiver
[quote]"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.[/quote]

somebody shut him up! :lol: hes sounds lioke the oirish roiver
  • Quote Bottle_of_Smoke

Post by Bottle_of_Smoke Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:33 pm

Yeah i was pretty surprised by him shouting up the ira - in the book i get the impression he couldn't care less anymore about the northern ireland situation. Or Catholiscism

Maybe he's doing it for the laugh/to engage with the crowd. Though I noticed as the years have gone by theres been much more rockers than celtic fans at the gigs
Yeah i was pretty surprised by him shouting up the ira - in the book i get the impression he couldn't care less anymore about the northern ireland situation. Or Catholiscism

Maybe he's doing it for the laugh/to engage with the crowd. Though I noticed as the years have gone by theres been much more rockers than celtic fans at the gigs
  • Quote nboldock

Post by nboldock Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:27 pm

I was going to post that passage but I couldn't find where it was in the book, and I didn't want to try and remember and get it wrong! Glad someone else found the right bit.
I was going to post that passage but I couldn't find where it was in the book, and I didn't want to try and remember and get it wrong! Glad someone else found the right bit.
  • Quote Zuzana

Post by Zuzana Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:48 pm

Shane in A Drink with Shane MacGowan, when asked what being Irish means to him:

"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.
(...)
I wouldn’t join the IRA now under any circumstances. I don’t agree with killing civilians. I don’t think I’d be any good in the IRA, is another reason. You find your task in life and you do that. I haven’t got the qualifications to be an IRA man, I have the qualifications to be an Irish musician. And I’ve still got a few kicks in the arses ready for the boring old farts of Irish music. They’re still there, the ones who couldn’t handle the Pogues."
Shane in [i]A Drink with Shane MacGowan[/i], when asked what being Irish means to him:

"The Pogues would never have existed if I wasn’t Irish. Ireland means everything to me. I always felt guilty because I didn’t lay down my life for Ireland, I didn’t join up. Not that I would have helped the situation, probably. But I felt ashamed that I didn’t have the guts to join the IRA. And the Pogues was my way of overcoming that guilt. And looking back on it, I think maybe I made the right choice.
(...)
I wouldn’t join the IRA now under any circumstances. I don’t agree with killing civilians. I don’t think I’d be any good in the IRA, is another reason. You find your task in life and you do that. I haven’t got the qualifications to be an IRA man, I have the qualifications to be an Irish musician. And I’ve still got a few kicks in the arses ready for the boring old farts of Irish music. They’re still there, the ones who couldn’t handle the Pogues."
  • Quote MacRua

Post by MacRua Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:37 am

I believe Shane has aired his views of the subject, more than once.
I believe Shane has aired his views of the subject, more than once.
  • Quote IrishRover

Post by IrishRover Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:53 pm

Mick Molloy wrote:
Happy anniversary Oirish!


Ahoy, hundred thousand thanks Mick! Slainte :D

DownInTheGround wrote:
How about a 1000th post resolution! hey, i have an oidea!!


Oi promoise to keep up the good work, in doirection and accordoing to purest OIrish sporits, essence & attitude. :D
[quote="Mick Molloy"]

Happy anniversary Oirish![/quote]

Ahoy, hundred thousand thanks Mick! Slainte :D

[quote="DownInTheGround"]

How about a 1000th post resolution! hey, i have an oidea!![/quote]

Oi promoise to keep up the good work, in doirection and accordoing to purest OIrish sporits, essence & attitude. :D
  • Quote DownInTheGround

Post by DownInTheGround Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:39 pm

IrishRover wrote:LOL 8)

The coppers in the North they couldn't catch him
The British army they just couldn't touch him
When he got out of jail he shouted up the IRA
And the guests called him Paddy Public Enemy No 1

and the crowd shouts: SHANEO, SHANEO, SHANEO !!!
(lol, somehow it turned out thois is me 1000th post at Medusa, it couldn't be better! :D )


How about a 1000th post resolution! hey, i have an oidea!!
[quote="IrishRover"]LOL 8)

The coppers in the North they couldn't catch him
The British army they just couldn't touch him
When he got out of jail he shouted up the IRA
And the guests called him Paddy Public Enemy No 1

and the crowd shouts: SHANEO, SHANEO, SHANEO !!!
(lol, somehow it turned out thois is me 1000th post at Medusa, it couldn't be better! :D )[/quote]

How about a 1000th post resolution! hey, i have an oidea!!

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