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Post by Guest Mon May 10, 2004 2:42 pm

A 23 year old scaffolder Liam Mcinerney has been charged with grievous bodily harm and released on bail.

Brian
A 23 year old scaffolder Liam Mcinerney has been charged with grievous bodily harm and released on bail.

Brian
  • Quote kufen

Post by kufen Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:55 pm

Thanks !

:P
Thanks !

:P
  • Quote MacRua

Post by MacRua Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:08 pm

with the greatest pleasure :wink:

Even fewer teeth short of a mouthful, but is Shane MacGowan growing up?

A COUPLE of days ago, I got an alarming phone call. "Something's happened to Shane," the caller said. "But I'm not allowed to tell you what it is. He'll be calling you himself to tell you."

Shane MacGowan, the person being referred to, is not a person who leads a quiet life and therefore the fact that something was up wasn't unusual. What was unusual was the mysteriousness of whatever was up. What could possibly have happened to warrant this level of secrecy? Had Shane been kidnapped?

I lived with Shane for most of my adult life, so I was accustomed to strange goings on, but I got worried and insisted he speak to me immediately.

A few moments later, Shane came on the phone sounding slightly sheepish. Plans for a trip that we had been making were being postponed, he announced, because of an "Incident". An "Incident"? I asked. What kind of an "Incident"?

Shane had, he confessed, been set upon in a bar in Belgravia, a nice part of London. The man had followed him to the toilet and for no apparent reason had severely beaten him with what he described as a "bit of scaffolding". Shane suffered a fractured cheek and is nursing a black eye. Which will be all right, he assured me, because he can wear shades.

For most people, the idea of a loved one being attacked and beaten up is a shocking thing and quite upsetting. And indeed, it was upsetting for Shane to have been hurt. But there was a time in the history of our relationship when Shane was more often than not causing the trouble; a time when I regularly saw him get involved in physical fights. He was, after all, one of the first punk rockers, along with Sid Vicious and Johnny Lydon, aka Rotten.

My first date with Shane involved standing outside the 100 Club on Oxford Street in London while he and the bouncer had words, which were mostly Shane repeatedly inviting the man to punch him in the face and see what happened. Violence for punks was a fashion thing. The imagery was blatantly aggressive, flirting with Nazism and military paraphernalia and bovver boots for boys and girls.

Punks were always having their heads kicked in just for being punks. You spat at the bands you liked, while they were on stage. Johnny and Sid would snarl and bait their audiences, but looking at Sid with blood all over his face and arms was often sufficient to deter anyone from rising to the challenge of actual physical contact.

This week, I read an interview with John Lydon which shocked me. In the interview, John confessed that he had been shit-scared of the audiences every time he went out there. And that he really hadn't enjoyed being "Rotten" at all. He went on to complain of an incident when a girl had thrown her stiletto-heeled shoe at him on stage. The heel had lanced his forehead, but the girl had had the nerve to go backstage after the gig and ask for her shoe back.

These days, John lives happily with his partner in California and talks proudly about caring for his nephews. A family man. Shane used to boast about the fact that he never backed down, no matter what they did to him. He wore what he wanted to wear, said what he felt like saying and didn't take shit from anyone.

Shane hasn't changed on any of those counts, but something has changed. He wasn't happy about being beaten up. But he wasn't angry, either. He wasn't looking for revenge. He was simply bemused. After all, what had he done to these guys? Absolutely nothing.

In the old days, that wouldn't have mattered. He would have been looking for an excuse for aggression. A way to get a few more teeth kicked in. Sadly, he's just lost two more teeth, which doesn't leave him with many. And he will need an operation to repair his cheekbone. But he does seem to have grown up a bit. Even punks have to do it.

©Victoria Mary Clarke
with the greatest pleasure :wink:

Even fewer teeth short of a mouthful, but is Shane MacGowan growing up?

A COUPLE of days ago, I got an alarming phone call. "Something's happened to Shane," the caller said. "But I'm not allowed to tell you what it is. He'll be calling you himself to tell you."

Shane MacGowan, the person being referred to, is not a person who leads a quiet life and therefore the fact that something was up wasn't unusual. What was unusual was the mysteriousness of whatever was up. What could possibly have happened to warrant this level of secrecy? Had Shane been kidnapped?

I lived with Shane for most of my adult life, so I was accustomed to strange goings on, but I got worried and insisted he speak to me immediately.

A few moments later, Shane came on the phone sounding slightly sheepish. Plans for a trip that we had been making were being postponed, he announced, because of an "Incident". An "Incident"? I asked. What kind of an "Incident"?

Shane had, he confessed, been set upon in a bar in Belgravia, a nice part of London. The man had followed him to the toilet and for no apparent reason had severely beaten him with what he described as a "bit of scaffolding". Shane suffered a fractured cheek and is nursing a black eye. Which will be all right, he assured me, because he can wear shades.

For most people, the idea of a loved one being attacked and beaten up is a shocking thing and quite upsetting. And indeed, it was upsetting for Shane to have been hurt. But there was a time in the history of our relationship when Shane was more often than not causing the trouble; a time when I regularly saw him get involved in physical fights. He was, after all, one of the first punk rockers, along with Sid Vicious and Johnny Lydon, aka Rotten.

My first date with Shane involved standing outside the 100 Club on Oxford Street in London while he and the bouncer had words, which were mostly Shane repeatedly inviting the man to punch him in the face and see what happened. Violence for punks was a fashion thing. The imagery was blatantly aggressive, flirting with Nazism and military paraphernalia and bovver boots for boys and girls.

Punks were always having their heads kicked in just for being punks. You spat at the bands you liked, while they were on stage. Johnny and Sid would snarl and bait their audiences, but looking at Sid with blood all over his face and arms was often sufficient to deter anyone from rising to the challenge of actual physical contact.

This week, I read an interview with John Lydon which shocked me. In the interview, John confessed that he had been shit-scared of the audiences every time he went out there. And that he really hadn't enjoyed being "Rotten" at all. He went on to complain of an incident when a girl had thrown her stiletto-heeled shoe at him on stage. The heel had lanced his forehead, but the girl had had the nerve to go backstage after the gig and ask for her shoe back.

These days, John lives happily with his partner in California and talks proudly about caring for his nephews. A family man. Shane used to boast about the fact that he never backed down, no matter what they did to him. He wore what he wanted to wear, said what he felt like saying and didn't take shit from anyone.

Shane hasn't changed on any of those counts, but something has changed. He wasn't happy about being beaten up. But he wasn't angry, either. He wasn't looking for revenge. He was simply bemused. After all, what had he done to these guys? Absolutely nothing.

In the old days, that wouldn't have mattered. He would have been looking for an excuse for aggression. A way to get a few more teeth kicked in. Sadly, he's just lost two more teeth, which doesn't leave him with many. And he will need an operation to repair his cheekbone. But he does seem to have grown up a bit. Even punks have to do it.

©Victoria Mary Clarke
  • Quote kufen

Post by kufen Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:48 am

Have you read a story by Victoria Clarke in Sunday Independent?
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/ ... e_id=10785
She says he will need an operation to repair his cheekbone...


can you pase that article, dont want to register .....
[quote]Have you read a story by Victoria Clarke in Sunday Independent?
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/ ... e_id=10785
She says he will need an operation to repair his cheekbone...[/quote]

can you pase that article, dont want to register .....
  • Quote MacRua

Post by MacRua Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:56 am

I think so :
He showed up in Glasgow last Saturday. It was a the premiere of new documentary of Jinky Johnstone.
Shorter URL
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5025910.html

Have you read a story by Victoria Clarke in Sunday Independent?
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1170531&issue_id=10785
She says he will need an operation to repair his cheekbone...
I think so :
He showed up in Glasgow last Saturday. It was a the premiere of new documentary of Jinky Johnstone.
[url=http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14182391&method=full&siteid=89488&headline=jinky-s-tears-as-old-pals-honour-lisbon-legend-name_page.html]Shorter URL[/url]
[url]http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5025910.html[/url]

Have you read a story by Victoria Clarke in Sunday Independent?
[url]http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1170531&issue_id=10785[/url]
She says he will need an operation to repair his cheekbone...
  • Quote chrisOld97

Post by chrisOld97 Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:05 pm

any news on Shane? Is he recovering OK?
any news on Shane? Is he recovering OK?
  • Quote McSwagger

Post by McSwagger Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:38 pm

I always get a kick out of seeing that glass holder attached to his mic.
I always get a kick out of seeing that glass holder attached to his mic.
  • Quote DzM

And more

Post by DzM Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:12 pm

Yahoo! News

with very charming photo (stock photo - not a photo of his injuries):

Shane photo
[url=http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=765&e=19&u=/nm/people_macgowan_dc]Yahoo! News[/url]

with very charming photo (stock photo - not a photo of his injuries):

[url=http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040421/482/nyet15504211536]Shane photo[/url]
  • Quote McSwagger

Post by McSwagger Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:45 pm

Thanks for the links. Hopefully his injuries aren't as "extensive" as reported.
Thanks for the links. Hopefully his injuries aren't as "extensive" as reported.
  • Quote MacRua

Post by MacRua Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:49 pm

And
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004181605,00.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=14165766&method=full&siteid=50143

Nothing new, but accompanied with great pics
And
[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004181605,00.html[/url]
[url]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=14165766&method=full&siteid=50143[/url]

Nothing new, but accompanied with great pics
  • Quote Dave

Shane Attacked in Pub

Post by Dave Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:31 pm

Check it out!!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/0 ... index.html
Check it out!!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/0 ... index.html

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