The Republican Music of Shane before the Pogues

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Post by Niall Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:39 pm

the lads can refer to anything. example "im going drinkin with the lads tonight" Derry mucker, I knew what you meant butyou need to be careful, not everyone on this site has sympathetic views on the IRA

Brixton Show

Post by James Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:31 pm

I was there that night, when your man was in the toilet, or something. I didn't know the song and asked my Dad if Rocky Road To Dublin had used those lyrics before the version I know, like Rising of The Moon to Wearing Of The Green :(
The rest of the musicians were a little slower to catch on, but it was a cool diversion whilst we were waiting for Body of An American.

Re: Lads

Post by Alex Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:53 am

Kilmichael wrote:
Derry Mucker wrote:Actually i heard a recorded version of Shane singing a drunken verse of the Boys of Kilmichael from Limewire i think. He was pissed singing it!


Both The Pogues (Bergen '85) and Shane and The Popes (London '94) have done pretty good live versions of The Boys of Kilmichael. Rumour has it that Shane recorded it for the Snake but ZTT made him leave it off.

On one of the last Brixton shows, Shane also kicked into 18th Day of Nov, when Mr Ranken took a time out, I think James also said a few things about that on his journal.

Re: Lads

Post by Kilmichael Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:08 am

Derry Mucker wrote:Actually i heard a recorded version of Shane singing a drunken verse of the Boys of Kilmichael from Limewire i think. He was pissed singing it!


Both The Pogues (Bergen '85) and Shane and The Popes (London '94) have done pretty good live versions of The Boys of Kilmichael. Rumour has it that Shane recorded it for the Snake but ZTT made him leave it off.

Re: Lads

Post by James Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:47 am

Derry Mucker wrote:Sorry for causing a hula-balo, but in certain areas the 'lads' is a term made in certain areas of the North for a different group of people.

Actually i heard a recorded version of Shane singing a drunken verse of the Boys of Kilmichael from Limewire i think. He was pissed singing it!

No, not Shane! That doesn't fit in with what I know about him at all.

:p

Lads

Post by Derry Mucker Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:26 pm

Sorry for causing a hula-balo, but in certain areas the 'lads' is a term made in certain areas of the North for a different group of people.

Actually i heard a recorded version of Shane singing a drunken verse of the Boys of Kilmichael from Limewire i think. He was pissed singing it!

Post by Kilmichael Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:29 am

The point I was really trying to make was Phil's:

philipchevron wrote:One man's terrorist is another man's Black and Tan.


Calling the IRA (or the British Army) 'the Lads' or 'Murdering Scum' is really far too simplistic...

Post by MacRua Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:21 am

Have you tried The Lost Decade, Derry M. ?

PS some said "their <The New Republican's> five-song set included The Rising Of The Moon and The Patriot Game, plus Brendan Behan's The Auld Triangle..."

Post by James Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:09 pm

Anonymous wrote:i think it was just one gig but i could be wrong? historians?

Shane's pre-pogues/pogue mahone band was the Nipple Erectors, a punk band with no particular 'Irish' agenda.

In the IISFGWG film, the Nips's (incidentally a group with some great songs, like Vengeance, Gabrielle, Happy Song and Infatuation to name but a few) former manager referred to the New Republicans as the Noisy Boysys.

Re: FAO: DAWSONN

Post by Celtic.Dave Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:39 pm

Michaelo wrote:
Celtic.Dave wrote:
Michaelo wrote:'Murdering scum' springs to mind.


I always thought that was the right name of the British Army? I must be getting it mixed up to them dirty Irish Paddys.

Dave- there have been plenty of atrocities inflicted by all sides in the conflict. Murder is murder. It doesn't matter if it's the British Army, IRA, INLA, UVF or whoever.


True mate,but no need to make remakes like that.

Re: FAO: DAWSONN

Post by Michaelo Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:36 pm

Celtic.Dave wrote:
Michaelo wrote:'Murdering scum' springs to mind.


I always thought that was the right name of the British Army? I must be getting it mixed up to them dirty Irish Paddys.

Dave- there have been plenty of atrocities inflicted by all sides in the conflict. Murder is murder. It doesn't matter if it's the British Army, IRA, INLA, UVF or whoever.

Post by philipchevron Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:34 pm

One man's terrorist is another man's Black and Tan.

Re: FAO: DAWSONN

Post by Celtic.Dave Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:32 pm

Michaelo wrote:'Murdering scum' springs to mind.


I always thought that was the right name of the British Army? I must be getting it mixed up to them dirty Irish Paddys.

Re: FAO: DAWSONN

Post by Michaelo Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:15 pm

Kilmichael wrote:
Derry Mucker wrote:When ye live in the North the 'lads' are known as the IRA. Sorry if ye did not undertand my jargon.


Don't you mean the IRA are known as 'the lads', rather than the other way around? And they're also known as many other things to many other people...

Quite.
'Murdering scum' springs to mind.

Re: FAO: DAWSONN

Post by Kilmichael Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:28 pm

Derry Mucker wrote:When ye live in the North the 'lads' are known as the IRA. Sorry if ye did not undertand my jargon.


Don't you mean the IRA are known as 'the lads', rather than the other way around? And they're also known as many other things to many other people...

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