[quote="dj_evol_eno"]Why would you not put info about who played what songs? And how many songs from this collection are also on Irish Songs of Rebellion Resistance and Reconciliation as well? Is ISoRaR worth picking up as well? (Seems Amazon has a deal if you get both, being in the States, they might be my only option.)[/quote]

I really hate that album. Irish Songs of Rebellion Resistance and Reconciliation was shit, in my opinion. Passionlessly sang, songs too drawn out, crappy instrumentation. It's a real museum piece, with great songs made into exercises of ... something that has nothing do with what makes folk music great. I thought Kavana's version of Kitty was at least passable for a while, because it's a song that stands up to being made slow, dreamy and reverent but repeat listens show it's a fucking shitter compared to the Pogues's version. Do yourself a favour and get the Dubliners and The Clancy Brothers's versions of these songs. Fuck it, get the Dropkick Murphys versions if you can't track down Luke or Liam, at least they sound [i]alive[/i]

[quote="Alex"]It's not quite what i expected, but it's still nice. But instead of buying this here, I'd recommend you to buy the "1798-1998" album and all the other albums ever released by Mr Kavana.[/quote]

Thanks for the info...exactly what I was looking for.

I recieved that Box-set few days ago. It looks great, but I was a bit disapointed, because I expected more songs. There's mainly irish histroy and poetry recited by Kavana.
A lot of the songs are acapella. Another minus is that many songs are copied from his album "1798-1998 - Irish Songs, Tunes and Speech of Rebellion....." or from other albums. The history which Kavana reads on the disks is also included in a 120-page-book, his speech is backed by lovely tunes, some of them are also from previous albums.
It's not quite what i expected, but it's still nice. But instead of buying this here, I'd recommend you to buy the "1798-1998" album and all the other albums ever released by Mr Kavana.



Disc 1
1. Songs Of Our Land (spoken)
2. Seevocuda [b]song[/b]
3. Before History's Tale Began
4. The Invaders [b]song[/b]
5. Arrival Of The Celts (spoken)
6. St Patrick [b]song[/b]
7. The Partial Catastrophe (Medley) [b](instrumental)[/b]
8. A Pagan Cult Survives (spoken)
9. The Wran (Medley) [b]song[/b]
10. The Vikings And Brian Ború (spoken)
11. Weep Now For Poor Róisín (acapella)
12. Macmurrough And The Normans (spoken)
13. The Bards [b]song[/b]
14. Henry VIII (spoken)
15. For All His Wives... (spoken)
16. A Royal And A Reasonable Fellow [b]song[/b]
17. Irish Slaves (spoken)
18. Elizabeth And The Planters (spoken)
19. Liza (spoken)
20. Follow Me Up To Carlow [b]1798-1998[/b]
21. Cromwell, Agent Of A Wrathful God (spoken)
22. Young Ned Of The Hill [b]overdubbed version from the "Home Fire" album feat. Terry Woods[/b]
23. Lament For Ireland (spoken)
24. Remember The 12Th (spoken)
25. Derry, The Boyne, Aughrim & The Treaty Of Limerick (spoken)
26. Sean O'Dhuibhir A'Ghleanna (acapella)
27. Farewell To Patrick Sarsfield (spoken)
28. Both Sides Of The Boyne [b]song[/b]

Disc 2
1. Wild Geese (spoken)
2. Súil A Rúin (acapella)
3. Penal Days (spoken)
4. The Penal Laws (spoken)
5. Farewell Granuaille (spoken)
6. Deoraí (spoken)
7. Rambling Irishman [b]song[/b]
8. The Bardic Tradition And Death Of O'Carolan (spoken)
9. An Entrée (spoken)
10. A Modest Proposal (spoken)
11. John Barry (spoken)
12. American War Of Independence (spoken)
13. At Valley Forge (acapella)
14. French Revolution (spoken)
15. The Carmagnoles (acapella)
16. The Sean Bhean Bhocht [b]1798-1998, added harmonies[/b]
17. The Rights Of Man (spoken)
18. The Summer Soldiers (acapella)
19. 1798 And The United Irishmen (spoken)
20. Dunlavin Green [b]1798-1998, added instruments[/b]
21. Boolavogue [b]1798-1998, added harmonies & instruments[/b]
22. Forging Of The Pikes (spoken)
23. Rising Of The Moon [b]song[/b]
24. Who Fears To Speak Of '98 (spoken)
25. Roddy Mccorley [b]1798-1998, added harmonies[/b]
26. A Winter's Tale (spoken)
27. By Memory Inspired (acapella)
28. Truth And Understanding [b]song[/b]
29. The Union (spoken)
30. The Shamrock Shore [b]song[/b]

Disc 3
1. Young Robert Emmet (acapella)
2. Robert Emmet's Last Words/Scaffold Passage (spoken)
3. Emmet 's No More (spoken)
4. After '98 (spoken)
5. The Plains Of Waterloo (acapella)
6. The Whiteboys (spoken)
7. Buachaillín Bán (acapella)
8. Daniel O'Connell (spoken)
9. O'Connell & Érin Go Bragh (acapella)
10. Further Catastrophe (Medley) [b](instrumental)[/b]
11. O'Connell's Dead (spoken)
12. The Praties (acapella)
13. The Great Hunger(spoken)
14. Mad Visions (acapella)
15. The Famine Year(spoken)
16. Skibereen (acapella) [b]1798-1998[/b]
17. Diaspora (spoken)
18. The New Road [b]song[/b]
19. Canada-i-o (acapella)
20. The New Dominion (spoken)
21. Crossing The Niagara (acapella)
22. Bound For South Australia (acapella)
23. The Plains Of Emu (spoken)
24. Adieu And Farewell [b]song[/b]
25. On The Tide (spoken)
26. No Irish Need Apply [b]song[/b]
27. The Battle Of Bull Run (acapella)
28. Muldoon, The Solid Man (acapella)

Disc 4
1. Fenians, The Land League And Parnell (spoken)
2. The Wife Of The Bold Tenant Farmer (acapella)
3. The Uncrowned King/The Pinch O' Snuff [b]song, "Courtin' in the kitchen" (from The Bucks) with new lyrics[/b]
4. Revival And Rising (spoken)
5. The Foggy Dew [b]1798-1998[/b]
6. Easter 1916 (spoken)
7. War Of Independence And Civil War (spoken)
8. Four Green Fields [b]1798-1998, added harmonies[/b]
9. Cry, Cry, Cry [b]song[/b]
10. Free State To The Troubles (spoken)
11. In The Smoke (spoken)
12. The Travellin' People/Death Chant Of The Navaho [b]song[/b]
13. You Northern Gaels (spoken)
14. Reconciliation (acapella)
15. Old Ireland/New Ireland [b]song, based on "Fair Rosa" or the german "Dornröschen"[/b]
16. Lovers And Friends (acapella)
17. Irish Ways [b]sounds like a overdubbed version from the LILT album, you can hear Shane on the diediddledidie part for a few seconds solo[/b]

Why would you not put info about who played what songs? And how many songs from this collection are also on Irish Songs of Rebellion Resistance and Reconciliation as well? Is ISoRaR worth picking up as well? (Seems Amazon has a deal if you get both, being in the States, they might be my only option.)

[quote="RoddyRuddy"][quote="Alex"]yeah truely a must own, but still a bit too expensive.
From listenling to the samples it sounds like most of the songs are new recordings. But a few sound exactly like from the "1798-1998 Irish Songs of Rebellion"
[url=http://www.amazon.de/1798-1998-Irish-Songs-Rebel-Various/dp/B00000G6ON/ref=sr_1_3/028-5740619-8278900?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1173603375&sr=8-3]amazon[/url][/quote]

Sorry if this looks like spam but ;
http://www.find-cd.co.uk/index.htm
same idea as kelkoo but seems to give more results eg £17.99 for Irish Ways[/quote]

just saw that cd-wow.net has it for 32 Euro including shipping so i went for that. Can't wait!!

I don't have the boxset yet, but I read somewhere that there are no notes about who played what on which song.

[quote="Lade"]Anyone who knows which songs Shane and Terry performs on?[/quote]

Anyone who knows which songs Shane and Terry performs on?

[quote="Alex"]yeah truely a must own, but still a bit too expensive.
From listenling to the samples it sounds like most of the songs are new recordings. But a few sound exactly like from the "1798-1998 Irish Songs of Rebellion"
[url=http://www.amazon.de/1798-1998-Irish-Songs-Rebel-Various/dp/B00000G6ON/ref=sr_1_3/028-5740619-8278900?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1173603375&sr=8-3]amazon[/url][/quote]

Sorry if this looks like spam but ;
http://www.find-cd.co.uk/index.htm
same idea as kelkoo but seems to give more results eg £17.99 for Irish Ways

yeah truely a must own, but still a bit too expensive.
From listenling to the samples it sounds like most of the songs are new recordings. But a few sound exactly like from the "1798-1998 Irish Songs of Rebellion"
[url=http://www.amazon.de/1798-1998-Irish-Songs-Rebel-Various/dp/B00000G6ON/ref=sr_1_3/028-5740619-8278900?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1173603375&sr=8-3]amazon[/url]

Well bugger me. This looks like an absolute must own.

[quote="Shaz"]Drat! Here's a cut and paste:[/quote]
Thank you, Shaz!

Quote from HMV ".............
.....
reviews
Feb 2007
Ron Kavana rarely does things by halves, whether delving into the Topic archives, cursing Cromwell with the Pogues or gleefully craic-ing a Jagger/Richards classic. Even by his Renaissance man standards, Irish Ways must have been a huge undertaking.
Anticipating criticism, he admits he's no historian but quotes sources as diverse as Nikolai Gogol and Victor Jara in his assertion that traditional song is the most accurate and illuminating repository of the past. He may just be right, and even if many of his carefully researched adaptations are correspondingly tragic in tone – and necessarily partisan, the story is arguably at its most gripping on blood-quickening battle cries like Follow Me up to Carlow. Figures such as Henry VIII make convenient targets for some diversionary humour.

In essence though, Kavana tackles Ireland's tortured past – Praties is truly haunting – in the hope of a more peaceful, more just future.............." end quote

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProd ... _MAINTITLE



you can listen to tracks at the below link
http://www.emusic.com/album/11005/11005450.html

[quote="Zuzana"]Unfortunately, the article is beyond subscription. :?[/quote]

Drat! Here's a cut and paste:

Ron Kavana
Irish Ways
(Proper)

09 Mar 2007

Cork-born singer and songwriter Ron Kavana has been working for over six years on this magnum opus – a four-CD box with an accompanying 122-page book that sets out to tell in traditional and original music, poetry and narration the story of Ireland and its people, from prehistory to the present. He’s got a host of terrific guests with him, including such notables as Paddy Keenan, Shane McGowan, Terry Woods, Niamh Parsons, Gino Lupari and a couple of dozen more. Unfortunately, in the absence of credits for individual tracks, the punter is left to play a guessing game as to who’s doing what where. That caveat aside, Kavana’s monumental project more than succeeds in its ambitious aims.

Sarah McQuaid
Rating: 7 / 10

Unfortunately, the article is beyond subscription. :?

Shane and Terry both appear on the new Irish Ways boxset that Ron Kavana has put together. Here's a review of it in Hot Press:

http://www.hotpress.com/music/reviews/a ... 14480.html