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  • Quote Gurrier

Post by Gurrier Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:05 am

Pyro wrote:
Gurrier wrote:I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned


I think people have various potential. Some of it is discovered during the course of life by "natural" means. And some of it can be unlocked by drugs. Or meditation, or hypnosis. But - there´s the but - most people who want "out of the world" experience do drugs, as it´s the fastest and it looks to be the simplest way. It works for some of them, it doesn´t for others - that´s the way things go I guess :-)


Good point, meditation or concentration of oneself from oneself for that matter is like the winding dirtroad route. Arduous, but you're granted a strength through resistance. Where as in a way drugs can do the same thing but you're being hurtled along on the superhighway. You get there a whole lot faster but your experience hasn't been dubbed with the same sinew as if you slogged it out for the long run.

My opinion with drugs. Well with anything really is you don't get something for nothing. To be granted knowledge or an experience one has to give something of themselves away. That's just the natural cycle of energy
[quote="Pyro"][quote="Gurrier"]I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned[/quote]

I think people have various potential. Some of it is discovered during the course of life by "natural" means. And some of it [i]can[/i] be unlocked by drugs. Or meditation, or hypnosis. But - there´s the but - most people who want "out of the world" experience do drugs, as it´s the fastest and it looks to be the simplest way. It works for some of them, it doesn´t for others - that´s the way things go I guess :-)[/quote]

Good point, meditation or concentration of oneself from oneself for that matter is like the winding dirtroad route. Arduous, but you're granted a strength through resistance. Where as in a way drugs can do the same thing but you're being hurtled along on the superhighway. You get there a whole lot faster but your experience hasn't been dubbed with the same sinew as if you slogged it out for the long run.

My opinion with drugs. Well with anything really is you don't get something for nothing. To be granted knowledge or an experience one has to give something of themselves away. That's just the natural cycle of energy
  • Quote Doktor Avalanche

Post by Doktor Avalanche Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:16 pm

Gurrier wrote:I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned


Two words: Grateful Dead
[quote="Gurrier"]I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned[/quote]

Two words: Grateful Dead
  • Quote Pyro

Post by Pyro Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:51 pm

Gurrier wrote:I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned


I think people have various potential. Some of it is discovered during the course of life by "natural" means. And some of it can be unlocked by drugs. Or meditation, or hypnosis. But - there´s the but - most people who want "out of the world" experience do drugs, as it´s the fastest and it looks to be the simplest way. It works for some of them, it doesn´t for others - that´s the way things go I guess :-)
[quote="Gurrier"]I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned[/quote]

I think people have various potential. Some of it is discovered during the course of life by "natural" means. And some of it [i]can[/i] be unlocked by drugs. Or meditation, or hypnosis. But - there´s the but - most people who want "out of the world" experience do drugs, as it´s the fastest and it looks to be the simplest way. It works for some of them, it doesn´t for others - that´s the way things go I guess :-)
  • Quote Gurrier

Post by Gurrier Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:48 pm

I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned
I'm buggered if I know how musicians and other artists create under the influence? I mean I realise the whole prying open the third eye thing for a bit of conscience streaming but I've tried writing on all manner or substance (nothing too hard) and it mostly just comes out as airy fairy shite. I write much better when I'm healthy, with my wits about me and sternly focused. I find a clear mind helps to clear a path to well ideas up from inside. I got to admit a few tipples doesn't exactly hurt the process but I never truly understood the 'drugs writing the songs' thing that seems to go on with alot of musicians. Musicians write music as far as I'm concerned
  • Quote ConfederatePogueFan

Well...I can tell you that my first and only Pogue Show...

Post by ConfederatePogueFan Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:37 am

Was in my hometown of Cincinnatti, Ohio USA during the Peace and Love tour...at the Vine Street Tavern in 1991 and I watched Shane McGowan absolutely bring hell down upon the stage in a drunken stupor for nearly 30 minutes...He cursed the crowd and its "American Fuckers...Fuck Bat Man...Fuck all..." let me see here....he fell down a couple times...tried to use the mic stand to support his frail body...all 145 lbs. of his heroin wasted skin and bones...shot the bird a few times to us... and was met by a roar of boos and cat calls...then the poor band looked over at him...they kept playing and the tension built and finally he sauntered off backstage and the rest of the band played a mere 45 minutes after...yeah...kind of a let down...I absolutely love Shane's raw throaty Irish Tenor voice and hope he is clean now...I have absolutely been moved by the Pogues like no other band save the Smiths (yes in a dreamy emo way...) and still count them amongst the best of the best despite the absolutely brutal show in Cincy...
Was in my hometown of Cincinnatti, Ohio USA during the Peace and Love tour...at the Vine Street Tavern in 1991 and I watched Shane McGowan absolutely bring hell down upon the stage in a drunken stupor for nearly 30 minutes...He cursed the crowd and its "American Fuckers...Fuck Bat Man...Fuck all..." let me see here....he fell down a couple times...tried to use the mic stand to support his frail body...all 145 lbs. of his heroin wasted skin and bones...shot the bird a few times to us... and was met by a roar of boos and cat calls...then the poor band looked over at him...they kept playing and the tension built and finally he sauntered off backstage and the rest of the band played a mere 45 minutes after...yeah...kind of a let down...I absolutely love Shane's raw throaty Irish Tenor voice and hope he is clean now...I have absolutely been moved by the Pogues like no other band save the Smiths (yes in a dreamy emo way...) and still count them amongst the best of the best despite the absolutely brutal show in Cincy...
  • Quote Clash Cadillac

Post by Clash Cadillac Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:20 am

fatbloke wrote:My drug of choice.........simple


The Pogues


Just can't get enough! :wink:


Yeah, I'm an addict as well.
[quote="fatbloke"]My drug of choice.........simple


The Pogues


Just can't get enough! :wink:[/quote]

Yeah, I'm an addict as well.
  • Quote fatbloke

Post by fatbloke Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:51 am

My drug of choice.........simple


The Pogues


Just can't get enough! :wink:
My drug of choice.........simple


The Pogues


Just can't get enough! :wink:
  • Quote Benno

Post by Benno Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:17 am

As for the pogues and drugs, I always found they didn't go together well
Booze is the thing of chioice for a pogues listen
especially Rum Sodomy and the Lash

as for other drugs...
i'll stick with my non-addictive and virtually harmless hallucinogens thanks
As for the pogues and drugs, I always found they didn't go together well
Booze is the thing of chioice for a pogues listen
especially Rum Sodomy and the Lash

as for other drugs...
i'll stick with my non-addictive and virtually harmless hallucinogens thanks
  • Quote DzM

Post by DzM Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:47 am

chinaski wrote:
MacRua wrote:Image

this is fake...unless the user shot up with an 18 gauge needle....

Mmmm. Firehose of fun.
[quote="chinaski"][quote="MacRua"][img]http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/m/a/macrua/smile.jpg[/img][/quote]
this is fake...unless the user shot up with an 18 gauge needle....[/quote]
Mmmm. Firehose of fun.
  • Quote chinaski

Post by chinaski Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:39 am

MacRua wrote:Image


this is fake...unless the user shot up with an 18 gauge needle....
[quote="MacRua"][img]http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/m/a/macrua/smile.jpg[/img][/quote]

this is fake...unless the user shot up with an 18 gauge needle....
  • Quote chinaski

Post by chinaski Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:35 am

I think it just depends in whose hands the intoxicant is in and that they know how far they should go. However, i would certainly not tell my kids that alcohol is of equal danger as cocaine and heroin. Let us not forget the dealers of such substances who target youngsters, ruin their lives and are able to use this as their main source of income.



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funny. I never saw a heroin dealer at my gradeschool....but there was a liquor store and a McDonalds on the nearest street corner....
[quote]I think it just depends in whose hands the intoxicant is in and that they know how far they should go. However, i would certainly not tell my kids that alcohol is of equal danger as cocaine and heroin. [b]Let us not forget the dealers of such substances who target youngsters, [/b]ruin their lives and are able to use this as their main source of income.[/quote]


[img]http://www.subliminalworld.org/camel2l.jpg[/img]


[img]http://www.beerbooks.com/images/1212.jpg[/img]


[img]http://www.beersoaksamerica.org/Heineken_GameDay.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.kids-expo.com/images/2007entertainment/Ronald-McDonald.jpg[/img]


funny. I never saw a heroin dealer at my gradeschool....but there was a liquor store and a McDonalds on the nearest street corner....
  • Quote MacRua

Re: A shot in the dark?

Post by MacRua Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:25 pm

Sandyfromvancouver wrote:
MacRua wrote:
Sandyfromvancouver wrote:Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks.

What is the deal? Do you have a label?


Sorry spelled your name wrong, Mr. MacRua.

Really? KABOOOONG!! I mean BEGORRRRAAAH

Sandyfromvancouver wrote:The point is those tracks are grotesque me dear. Really.

And you have doubts they fit my type? You decide, but why did you suggest me to cover them then? Find another performer..
[quote="Sandyfromvancouver"][quote="MacRua"][quote="Sandyfromvancouver"]Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks.[/quote]
What is the deal? Do you have a label?[/quote]

Sorry spelled your name wrong, Mr. MacRua.[/quote]
Really? KABOOOONG!! I mean BEGORRRRAAAH

[quote="Sandyfromvancouver"]The point is those tracks are grotesque me dear. Really.[/quote]
And you have doubts they fit my type? You decide, but why did you suggest me to cover them then? Find another performer..
  • Quote Sandyfromvancouver

Re: A shot in the dark?

Post by Sandyfromvancouver Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:49 pm

MacRua wrote:
Sandyfromvancouver wrote:Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks.

What is the deal? Do you have a label?


Sorry spelled your name wrong, Mr. MacRua.

The point is those tracks are grotesque me dear. Really.
[quote="MacRua"][quote="Sandyfromvancouver"]Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks.[/quote]
What is the deal? Do you have a label?[/quote]

Sorry spelled your name wrong, Mr. MacRua.

The point is those tracks are grotesque me dear. Really.
  • Quote MacRua

Re: A shot in the dark?

Post by MacRua Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:26 pm

Sandyfromvancouver wrote:Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks.

What is the deal? Do you have a label?
[quote="Sandyfromvancouver"]Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks.[/quote]
What is the deal? Do you have a label?
  • Quote Sandyfromvancouver

A shot in the dark?

Post by Sandyfromvancouver Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:16 pm

Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks. Were Miss Walshy's musings on adultery, which I didn't read, any worse? Sex and death indeed. :?
Might be nice if Quick Draw McRua covered those tracks. Were Miss Walshy's musings on adultery, which I didn't read, any worse? Sex and death indeed. :?

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