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Post by Maldoror Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:32 pm

MissWalshy wrote:I was reading an article by Dermot O'Leary:-

"My whole thing with artists has always been - never meet your heroes," says O'Leary. "Growing up it was always Bruce Springsteen and Shane MacGowan and I've had the good fortune not to meet either of those two. I just don't want to be let down by them".



Who here finds truth in that? Would you hurry passed your idol if passed in a street in fear your whole life may crash and burn if they fobbed you off?

I'm intrigued.


I really agree with this O'Leary guy. A good friend of mine is a concert promoter and I've been helping him for about 10 years. As a crew member I had to meet a lot of my favorite bands and sometimes that's very disappointing. I'm very realistic and I can really separate the music from the artist, but one band behaved so badly I never listened to them again. So if someone would say I could go backstage next time I go to a Pogues concert I wouldn't do it.
Mostly it's the band's manager who's a pain in the ass though. :evil:

Post by rain dog Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:13 am

my mate stood at the urinal next to tiger woods once.

said his thai blood is stronger than his african-american blood...

note to all: rinse & dry before offering a hand-shake

Post by MacRua Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:43 am

Nate wrote:They play great music but that aint getting 'em an invitation to my 21st birthday party. Well maybe Philip. But the Pogues Whistle Player can be a bit bold... :wink:

Decent party? it's boring... nothing to write home about. Wouldn't you like to remember it forever?! :wink:

Post by Nate Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:49 am

Eric V wrote:On the topic of fans and idols. I'm a fan of the music, of the scene, and of the talent. These are people. I have no idols. I find it hard to walk up to just about any stranger. If a stranger walks up to me and engages me, I find it odd...


I agree Eric, I love the music of the Pogues and think they're a wonderfully insightful and entertaining band - but they are people. Additionally, when people describe any of them as "geniuses" I just roll my eyes. Come on! They wrote some great and beautiful songs but "genius"? I don't think so. I'd be hard pressed to think of many people at all I truly consider genius - great work comes from appropriate circumstance and applied talent, not an inherent trait.

They play great music but that aint getting 'em an invitation to my 21st birthday party. Well maybe Philip. But the Pogues Whistle Player can be a bit bold... :wink:


And I know you're all aching for an invitation.
Nate

Post by carbinneach Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:16 pm

On the last Pogues tour, in Brixton, I found myself standing opposite a Mr. Fearnley. I shook his hand and said hello and then for some reason started going on about how shit the sound in Glasgow's Carling Academy is. What's worse is I think he might have mistaken what I was trying to say for something more like "you played badly in Glasgow". It was like watching myself being part of a car crash. In slow motion. :oops:

Post by Eric V Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:16 am

On the topic of fans and idols. I'm a fan of the music, of the scene, and of the talent. These are people. I have no idols. I find it hard to walk up to just about any stranger. If a stranger walks up to me and engages me, I find it odd. Drink helps, I suppose, but only if both parties are imbibing. I don't know what I would say other than the obvious, hey I liked the show.

Post by Eric V Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:12 am

DzM wrote:If we're just on the topic of making arses of ourselves


I went to see my wife's doctor, really a nurse practitioner, and before I left, my wife asked me to find out when thie lady was planning to come back from her maternity leave, as she was getting close to her due date. (wow... that was a long sentence) So, I went, and as she was going over my records I asked her. She stopped and looked at me and informed me that she was not pregnant and that I must be asking about so-and-so. :oops: She was ..... large. We did our best to ignore the mistake.

Post by Zuzana Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:19 am

fluke wrote:The only thing I could think of asking him when I met him after the show was, when he went to the beach, the ladies didn't think it strange his right arm mussels were much bigger than his left ... Still don't know if it was my poor english why he didn't react to that...

Maybe you’ve hit his tender spot – maybe ladies do mind that he breeds sea animals on his muscular arms. ;)

Post by fluke Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:32 am

I saw indigo swing a couple of years ago supporting brian setzer orchestra. I didn't know them but immediatly LOVED them. The stand up bass player was really playing wild!
The only thing I could think of asking him when I met him after the show was, when he went to the beach, the ladies didn't think it strange his right arm mussels were much bigger than his left ... Still don't know if it was my poor english why he didn't react to that...

Post by MacRua Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:50 am

well, maybe it's for the better that you had left that place, DzM... :lol:

Post by DzM Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:11 am

jaffa wrote:forget that i asked the real donovan when i did see him---i wanted to crawl under a table and hide...... :oops:
Bah!

If we're just on the topic of making arses of ourselves - About three years ago i was visiting the place where I grew up. Saw a middle-aged person who I thought I knew. When I had known him his name was Robert, but he was transgendered and she is now known as Roberta.

I walked up to this person and said "Roberta! How are you?"

The person looked at me for a moment and said "I'm not Roberta."

Rushing through my mind was that horrible moment of What's The Worst Thing I Just Did: "Ohmygodohmygodohmygod. I just told a middle aged woman that she looks like a slightly balding transgendered woman. Wait! Crap! I just told a slightly plump middle-aged man that he looks like a woman! Crap!"

Then the person said "But thank you! She's beautiful! I wish I looked as good as she does!"

After a few minutes of awkward conversation more I was able to establish that this person was ALSO a middle-aged transgender woman, so the overall faux pas was not nearly as bad as I thought. But still ... crawl under table time.

Post by jaffa Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:56 am

well i once went to see DONOVAN about 13yrs ago and not knowing what he looked like in recent yrs cuz i only had seen photos of him from the 70's i ended up going up to someone i thought might be him and asking for an autograph. boy was my face red when the gentleman standing before me says "who might you think i am?" and i say "donovan?" and he says "nope". forget that i asked the real donovan when i did see him---i wanted to crawl under a table and hide...... :oops:

Post by trashcity Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:19 am

I once saw a listing in the local paper that Chuck Berry was playing the Chicago Rock Cafe in Northampton, 10 miles down the road from me. now the rock cafe is the kind of place that normally puts on stuff like "SIMPLY THE BEST" - A TRIBUTE TO TINA TURNER" or whatever, so i rang them and sure enough, it was the real Chuck doing the gig. so i went along, Mr Berry played a great set of 45 minutes or so, and at the end of the gig was heading right past me with his minder on the way out.
Realising that this was probably the only time i'd ever come face to face with an authentic 50's rock'n'roll legend, i decided i should probably mark the moment with a well chosen phrase.
sadly, i couldnt think of one, so blurted out "I LOVE YOU CHUCK" to the man and recieved a bemused look from him and the biggest scowl i've ever seen from the minder who immediately hurried him to the relative safety of the streets of northampton.

Post by DzM Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:17 am

Ahh, the regrets. Looking back an realizing that perhaps saying "I bought a pair of your underwear on eBay" wasn't the best ice-breaker. The realization that asking "is there just a bowl of acid tabs or X or something back here I can help myself to" might give the wrong impression.

In hind-sight there were several things that, perhaps, would have been better left unsaid. :)

Post by Irish Rover Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:07 am

territa wrote:it's what I didn't say...


Yeah well i suppose when you think back on it afterwards there is always something you realise you could of said/asked/commented on etc.

Oh well :?

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