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  • Quote JohnG

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by JohnG Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:39 am

JohnG wrote:Don't know if this has been covered on here before, but there are obviously recurring topics in Shane's lyrics. Drink, death and hell (& heaven) clearly feature a lot.

But interesing how frequently the weather elements, especially rain and wind/breeze, frequently appear too.

Here's ten examples to start with:

Pair of brown eyes: “where the wind was gently laughing”
FoNY: “the wind goes right through you”
Sally Maclennane: “we walked him to the station in the rain”
Lullaby of London: “the north wind gently sighed” and “evening breeze coming from the east”
Boys from the County Hell: “on the first day of March it was raining”
Sit Down by the fire: “it isn’t the wind in the well”
The Broad Majestic Shannon: “as pure as the breeze”
Rainy Night in Soho: “took shelter from a shower” and “the wind was whistling all its charms”
London You’re a Lady: “washed away the rain”
Night Train to Lorca: “flaming steel swift as wind”

....and there's no doubt more.


Lullaby: "blown in on the great North wind"
[quote="JohnG"]Don't know if this has been covered on here before, but there are obviously recurring topics in Shane's lyrics. Drink, death and hell (& heaven) clearly feature a lot.

But interesing how frequently the weather elements, especially rain and wind/breeze, frequently appear too.

Here's ten examples to start with:

Pair of brown eyes: “where the wind was gently laughing”
FoNY: “the wind goes right through you”
Sally Maclennane: “we walked him to the station in the rain”
[b]Lullaby of London: “the north wind gently sighed” and “evening breeze coming from the east”[/b]
Boys from the County Hell: “on the first day of March it was raining”
Sit Down by the fire: “it isn’t the wind in the well”
The Broad Majestic Shannon: “as pure as the breeze”
Rainy Night in Soho: “took shelter from a shower” and “the wind was whistling all its charms”
London You’re a Lady: “washed away the rain”
Night Train to Lorca: “flaming steel swift as wind”

....and there's no doubt more.[/quote]

Lullaby: "blown in on the great North wind"
  • Quote JohnG

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by JohnG Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:19 am

JohnG wrote:Don't know if this has been covered on here before, but there are obviously recurring topics in Shane's lyrics. Drink, death and hell (& heaven) clearly feature a lot.

But interesing how frequently the weather elements, especially rain and wind/breeze, frequently appear too.

Here's ten examples to start with:

Pair of brown eyes: “where the wind was gently laughing”
FoNY: “the wind goes right through you”
Sally Maclennane: “we walked him to the station in the rain”
Lullaby of London: “the north wind gently sighed” and “evening breeze coming from the east”
Boys from the County Hell: “on the first day of March it was raining”
Sit Down by the fire: “it isn’t the wind in the well”
The Broad Majestic Shannon: “as pure as the breeze”
Rainy Night in Soho: “took shelter from a shower” and “the wind was whistling all its charms”
London You’re a Lady: “washed away the rain”
Night Train to Lorca: “flaming steel swift as wind”

....and there's no doubt more.


Digressing slightly but I've always been puzzled by line "September is your purgatory" in:

"September is your purgatory
Christmas is your heaven
And when the stinking streets of summer
Are washed away by rain"

Are the streets still stinking then?

BTW London You're a Lady a much-underrated song IMO and one I don't recall ever seeing live.
[quote="JohnG"]Don't know if this has been covered on here before, but there are obviously recurring topics in Shane's lyrics. Drink, death and hell (& heaven) clearly feature a lot.

But interesing how frequently the weather elements, especially rain and wind/breeze, frequently appear too.

Here's ten examples to start with:

Pair of brown eyes: “where the wind was gently laughing”
FoNY: “the wind goes right through you”
Sally Maclennane: “we walked him to the station in the rain”
Lullaby of London: “the north wind gently sighed” and “evening breeze coming from the east”
Boys from the County Hell: “on the first day of March it was raining”
Sit Down by the fire: “it isn’t the wind in the well”
The Broad Majestic Shannon: “as pure as the breeze”
Rainy Night in Soho: “took shelter from a shower” and “the wind was whistling all its charms”
London You’re a Lady: [b]“washed away the rain”[/b]
Night Train to Lorca: “flaming steel swift as wind”

....and there's no doubt more.[/quote]

Digressing slightly but I've always been puzzled by line "September is your purgatory" in:

"September is your purgatory
Christmas is your heaven
And when the stinking streets of summer
Are washed away by rain"

Are the streets still stinking then?

BTW London You're a Lady a much-underrated song IMO and one I don't recall ever seeing live.
  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by Fr. McGreer Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:13 pm

Jmurphy wrote:
Fr. McGreer wrote:"Down the alley an ice wagon flew, picked up a stiff that was turning blue"

Rain Street


That's a Bo Diddlley line btw


Hey James how's it going 8)

Yep, 50% of that line is Diddley's :lol:
[quote="Jmurphy"][quote="Fr. McGreer"]"Down the alley an ice wagon flew, picked up a stiff that was turning blue"

Rain Street[/quote]

That's a Bo Diddlley line btw[/quote]

Hey James how's it going 8)

Yep, 50% of that line is Diddley's :lol:
  • Quote Jmurphy

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by Jmurphy Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:12 am

Fr. McGreer wrote:"Down the alley an ice wagon flew, picked up a stiff that was turning blue"

Rain Street


That's a Bo Diddlley line btw
[quote="Fr. McGreer"]"Down the alley an ice wagon flew, picked up a stiff that was turning blue"

Rain Street[/quote]

That's a Bo Diddlley line btw
  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by Fr. McGreer Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:26 pm

firehazard wrote:
Well I couldn't decide whether the most obvious was a boat or a train anyway. So better not to mention either. Oops :oops:


:lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :oops: :oops:
[quote="firehazard"]

Well I couldn't decide whether the most obvious was a boat or a [size=200][color=#FF0000]train[/color][/size] anyway. So better not to mention either. Oops :oops: [/quote]

:lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :oops: :oops:
  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by Fr. McGreer Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:23 pm

"Down the alley an ice wagon flew, picked up a stiff that was turning blue"

Rain Street
"Down the alley an ice wagon flew, picked up a stiff that was turning blue"

Rain Street
  • Quote soulfinger

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by soulfinger Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:09 pm

"As the garbo trucks take away the muck of last night's puke and chunder"

In and Out.
"As the garbo trucks take away the muck of last night's puke and chunder"

In and Out.
  • Quote firehazard

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by firehazard Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:31 am

Fr. McGreer wrote:Good man FH, no mentioning the most obvious (QI Style).

Is a breeze a mode of transport?

Sayonara - she put me on a breeze to Kathmandu


Well I couldn't decide whether the most obvious was a boat or a train anyway. So better not to mention either. Oops :oops:

Never been sure whether it meant he actually went to Kathmandu or whether it was the effects of the Mekong Whiskey and the Hong Kong flu that made him imagine that he did. Though that's possibly too tortuous even for QI...
[quote="Fr. McGreer"]Good man FH, no mentioning the most obvious (QI Style).

Is a breeze a mode of transport?

Sayonara - she put me on a breeze to Kathmandu[/quote]

Well I couldn't decide whether the most obvious was a boat or a train anyway. So better not to mention either. Oops :oops:

Never been sure whether it meant he actually went to Kathmandu or whether it was the effects of the Mekong Whiskey and the Hong Kong flu that made him imagine that he did. Though that's possibly too tortuous even for [i]QI[/i]...
  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by Fr. McGreer Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:08 pm

Good man FH, no mentioning the most obvious (QI Style).

Is a breeze a mode of transport?

Sayonara - she put me on a breeze to Kathmandu
Good man FH, no mentioning the most obvious (QI Style).

Is a breeze a mode of transport?

Sayonara - she put me on a breeze to Kathmandu
  • Quote firehazard

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by firehazard Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:01 am

Fr. McGreer wrote:Religion is certainly the most mentioned but how about travel and modes of transport? A special prize for the most obscure mention of travel and the look of shame from the rest of us if you mention the most obvious. I'll go first....

A big khaki van - Billy's Bones.


How about a camel – "Girl From the Wadi Hammamat"?
[quote="Fr. McGreer"]Religion is certainly the most mentioned but how about travel and modes of transport? A special prize for the most obscure mention of travel and the look of shame from the rest of us if you mention the most obvious. I'll go first....

A big khaki van - Billy's Bones.[/quote]

How about a camel – "Girl From the Wadi Hammamat"?
  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by Fr. McGreer Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:05 pm

Religion is certainly the most mentioned but how about travel and modes of transport? A special prize for the most obscure mention of travel and the look of shame from the rest of us if you mention the most obvious. I'll go first....

A big khaki van - Billy's Bones.
Religion is certainly the most mentioned but how about travel and modes of transport? A special prize for the most obscure mention of travel and the look of shame from the rest of us if you mention the most obvious. I'll go first....

A big khaki van - Billy's Bones.
  • Quote firehazard

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by firehazard Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:25 pm

Fr. McGreer wrote:Nothing like a thread about The Pogues on a Pogues forum to bring out the Pogues fans. Good man John 8)

I'm guessing the most common theme would be religion and specifically Catholicism...


Good thread. 8)

Another among the many is "Lorca's Novena", of course:

"Mother of all our joys, mother of all our sorrows
Intercede with him tonight
For all of our tomorrows..."
[quote="Fr. McGreer"]Nothing like a thread about The Pogues on a Pogues forum to bring out the Pogues fans. Good man John 8)

I'm guessing the most common theme would be religion and specifically Catholicism...[/quote]

Good thread. 8)

Another among the many is "Lorca's Novena", of course:

"Mother of all our joys, mother of all our sorrows
Intercede with him tonight
For all of our tomorrows..."
  • Quote JohnG

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by JohnG Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:40 am

Fr. McGreer wrote:Nothing like a thread about The Pogues on a Pogues forum to bring out the Pogues fans. Good man John 8)

I'm guessing the most common theme would be religion and specifically Catholicism.

Sickbed - 'They took you up to midnight mass and left you in the lurch, so you dropped a button in the plate and spewed up in the church's

Rain Street is full of religion.... - 'There's a Tesco on the sacred ground where I pulled her knickers down whilst Judas took his measly price and St. Anthony gazed in awe at Christ, down Rain Street'

And of course Fathers Loyola, John and McGreer sipping a few drinks.


You've got me started now :) :

If I should Fall from Grace with God

Turkish: "Nor the nails of the cross" etc

Thousands are sailing: "From fear of priests with empty plates" etc

Broad Majestic Shannon: "the rosary called"

Bottle of Smoke: "Priests and maidens
Drunk as pagans
They had the Bottle of Smoke
Sins forgiven and celebrations"
(what a fantastic four lines - never really appreciated them as the song is sung so fast!)

and "Trip to Lourdes"
[quote="Fr. McGreer"]Nothing like a thread about The Pogues on a Pogues forum to bring out the Pogues fans. Good man John 8)

I'm guessing the most common theme would be religion and specifically Catholicism.

Sickbed - 'They took you up to midnight mass and left you in the lurch, so you dropped a button in the plate and spewed up in the church's

Rain Street is full of religion.... - 'There's a Tesco on the sacred ground where I pulled her knickers down whilst Judas took his measly price and St. Anthony gazed in awe at Christ, down Rain Street'

And of course Fathers Loyola, John and McGreer sipping a few drinks.[/quote]

You've got me started now :) :

If I should Fall from Grace with God

Turkish: "Nor the nails of the cross" etc

Thousands are sailing: "From fear of priests with empty plates" etc

Broad Majestic Shannon: "the rosary called"

Bottle of Smoke: "Priests and maidens
Drunk as pagans
They had the Bottle of Smoke
Sins forgiven and celebrations"
(what a fantastic four lines - never really appreciated them as the song is sung so fast!)

and "Trip to Lourdes"
  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by Fr. McGreer Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:47 pm

Nothing like a thread about The Pogues on a Pogues forum to bring out the Pogues fans. Good man John 8)

I'm guessing the most common theme would be religion and specifically Catholicism.

Sickbed - 'They took you up to midnight mass and left you in the lurch, so you dropped a button in the plate and spewed up in the church's

Rain Street is full of religion.... - 'There's a Tesco on the sacred ground where I pulled her knickers down whilst Judas took his measly price and St. Anthony gazed in awe at Christ, down Rain Street'

And of course Fathers Loyola, John and McGreer sipping a few drinks.
Nothing like a thread about The Pogues on a Pogues forum to bring out the Pogues fans. Good man John 8)

I'm guessing the most common theme would be religion and specifically Catholicism.

Sickbed - 'They took you up to midnight mass and left you in the lurch, so you dropped a button in the plate and spewed up in the church's

Rain Street is full of religion.... - 'There's a Tesco on the sacred ground where I pulled her knickers down whilst Judas took his measly price and St. Anthony gazed in awe at Christ, down Rain Street'

And of course Fathers Loyola, John and McGreer sipping a few drinks.
  • Quote mats

Re: Themes in Pogues' songs

Post by mats Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:59 pm

Misty Morning, Albert Bridge - On a cold and misty morning by the Albert Bridge, The sun fell cold upon my face
Misty Morning, Albert Bridge - On a cold and misty morning by the Albert Bridge, The sun fell cold upon my face

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