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  • Quote Ciderman

Re: peace and love

Post by Ciderman Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:57 pm

JohnG wrote:
Michaelo wrote:I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.


I think there are a fair few underrated tracks on the album. I love Night Train to Lorca and London You're a Lady but can't recall ever hearing them live and they rarely merit a mention.


I've never known them to play Night Train to Lorca live but London You're a Lady was performed at various gigs in 1989

http://pogueslive.great-site.net/?i=1

And in July 1991 with the Chieftains at Brixton Academy

http://pogueslive.great-site.net/?i=1

I don't think Sit Down by the Fire was ever performed live?
[quote="JohnG"][quote="Michaelo"]I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.[/quote]

I think there are a fair few underrated tracks on the album. I love Night Train to Lorca and London You're a Lady but can't recall ever hearing them live and they rarely merit a mention.[/quote]

I've never known them to play Night Train to Lorca live but London You're a Lady was performed at various gigs in 1989

http://pogueslive.great-site.net/?i=1

And in July 1991 with the Chieftains at Brixton Academy

http://pogueslive.great-site.net/?i=1

I don't think Sit Down by the Fire was ever performed live?
  • Quote JohnG

Re: peace and love

Post by JohnG Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:53 pm

Michaelo wrote:I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.


I think there are a fair few underrated tracks on the album. I love Night Train to Lorca and London You're a Lady but can't recall ever hearing them live and they rarely merit a mention.
[quote="Michaelo"]I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.[/quote]

I think there are a fair few underrated tracks on the album. I love Night Train to Lorca and London You're a Lady but can't recall ever hearing them live and they rarely merit a mention.
  • Quote Low D

Re: peace and love

Post by Low D Tue May 31, 2022 2:27 pm

Michaelo wrote:I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.


I agree completely. I will say, though, that I thought it did benefit from the de-cluttering remix that Steve Lillywhite & James Fearnley gave it. That is the only version i listen to now.

Also the B-sides from P&L are a fabulous EP on their own:

Star of the County Down (B-side to "White City" 12")
The Limerick Rake (B-side to "Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah")
Train of Love (B-side to "Misty Morning, Albert Bridge" CD single)
Everyman Is a King (B-side to "White City")
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah (A-side single)
Honky Tonk Women (B-side to "Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah" 12")
[quote="Michaelo"]I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.[/quote]

I agree completely. I will say, though, that I thought it did benefit from the de-cluttering remix that Steve Lillywhite & James Fearnley gave it. That is the only version i listen to now.

Also the B-sides from P&L are a fabulous EP on their own:

Star of the County Down (B-side to "White City" 12")
The Limerick Rake (B-side to "Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah")
Train of Love (B-side to "Misty Morning, Albert Bridge" CD single)
Everyman Is a King (B-side to "White City")
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah (A-side single)
Honky Tonk Women (B-side to "Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah" 12")
  • Quote Michaelo

Re: peace and love

Post by Michaelo Mon May 30, 2022 11:06 pm

I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.
I think Peace & Love suffered because it was the first album The Pogues made which wasn't a classic. I was hugely disappointed at the time it came out, though I really like it now. U.S.A. is, in my opinion, The Pogues must underrated track, both musically and lyrically.
  • Quote Villajohn

Re: peace and love

Post by Villajohn Thu May 19, 2022 12:01 am

Ron Kavana told me that he played on a few of the tracks, Young Ned for sure.....he said it was not a great time for the band.....Shane decided to 'decorate' the walls of one of Rak's studios,this resulted in the bands management receiving a hefty bill for having the walls restored to their original colour scheme.Frank Murray must have gone apeshit!
Ron Kavana told me that he played on a few of the tracks, Young Ned for sure.....he said it was not a great time for the band.....Shane decided to 'decorate' the walls of one of Rak's studios,this resulted in the bands management receiving a hefty bill for having the walls restored to their original colour scheme.Frank Murray must have gone apeshit!
  • Quote kmurray105

Re: peace and love

Post by kmurray105 Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:42 pm

Ciderman wrote:5 Cotton Fields - Andrew on original release? Shane lead vocals on the 2013 Remaster. Shane always sang this live.


The track has Shane and Andrew singing together.
[quote="Ciderman"]5 Cotton Fields - Andrew on original release? Shane lead vocals on the 2013 Remaster. Shane always sang this live.[/quote]

The track has Shane and Andrew singing together.
  • Quote Ciderman

Re: peace and love

Post by Ciderman Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:12 pm

DzM wrote:
Ciderman wrote:I've always thought this album would have got better reviews if they'd released it as this.

01 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.flac
[...]

I'd have been quite surprised if they released it in FLAC. Surely that didn't exist yet. They'd have been in WAV, right? (Well, even WAV is probably newer than 1989. Huh.)


I was referring to the tracklisting. I thought you would have realised that :roll:
[quote="DzM"][quote="Ciderman"]I've always thought this album would have got better reviews if they'd released it as this.

01 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.flac
[...][/quote]
I'd have been quite surprised if they released it in FLAC. Surely that didn't exist yet. They'd have been in WAV, right? (Well, even WAV is probably newer than 1989. Huh.)[/quote]

I was referring to the tracklisting. I thought you would have realised that :roll:
  • Quote Low D

Re: peace and love

Post by Low D Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:37 pm

The B-sides from this album are surely a powerful lot and would have made a smoking EP, or an epic double album.

Star Of The County Down
The Limerick Rake
Train Of Love
Everyman Is King
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah
Honky Tonk Women
The B-sides from this album are surely a powerful lot and would have made a smoking EP, or an epic double album.

Star Of The County Down
The Limerick Rake
Train Of Love
Everyman Is King
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah
Honky Tonk Women
  • Quote DzM

Re: peace and love

Post by DzM Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:05 pm

Ciderman wrote:I've always thought this album would have got better reviews if they'd released it as this.

01 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.flac
[...]

I'd have been quite surprised if they released it in FLAC. Surely that didn't exist yet. They'd have been in WAV, right? (Well, even WAV is probably newer than 1989. Huh.)
[quote="Ciderman"]I've always thought this album would have got better reviews if they'd released it as this.

01 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.flac
[...][/quote]
I'd have been quite surprised if they released it in FLAC. Surely that didn't exist yet. They'd have been in WAV, right? (Well, even WAV is probably newer than 1989. Huh.)
  • Quote Ciderman

Re: peace and love

Post by Ciderman Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:16 pm

I've always thought this album would have got better reviews if they'd released it as this.

01 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.flac
02 White City.flac
03 Young Ned of the Hill.flac
04 Misty Morning, Albert Bridge.flac
05 Cotton Fields.flac
06 The Limerick Rake.flac
07 Down All the Days.flac
08 USA.flac
09 Train of Love.flac
10 Gartloney Rats.flac
11 Boat Train.flac
12 Everyman Is A King.flac
13 Night Train to Lorca.flac
14 London You're A Lady.flac

It's certainly a much more enjoyable listen.

But that's only my opinion ;-)
I've always thought this album would have got better reviews if they'd released it as this.

01 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah.flac
02 White City.flac
03 Young Ned of the Hill.flac
04 Misty Morning, Albert Bridge.flac
05 Cotton Fields.flac
06 The Limerick Rake.flac
07 Down All the Days.flac
08 USA.flac
09 Train of Love.flac
10 Gartloney Rats.flac
11 Boat Train.flac
12 Everyman Is A King.flac
13 Night Train to Lorca.flac
14 London You're A Lady.flac

It's certainly a much more enjoyable listen.

But that's only my opinion ;-)
  • Quote Johnny the Slider

Re: peace and love

Post by Johnny the Slider Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:59 pm

It is a real hotch potch isn't it?

I miss the days when Phil would turn up and clarify these sort of questions for us.
:(
It is a real hotch potch isn't it?

I miss the days when Phil would turn up and clarify these sort of questions for us.
:(
  • Quote Kilmichael

Re: peace and love

Post by Kilmichael Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:45 pm

Definitely Jem on Train of Love, and I think Darryl on backing Vox on Blue Heaven. I always thought Shane and Spider sang Cotton Fields but could be wrong. Phil can also be heard on Down All The Days. The most varied album in terms of vocals, definitely.
Definitely Jem on Train of Love, and I think Darryl on backing Vox on Blue Heaven. I always thought Shane and Spider sang Cotton Fields but could be wrong. Phil can also be heard on Down All The Days. The most varied album in terms of vocals, definitely.
  • Quote Johnny the Slider

Re: peace and love

Post by Johnny the Slider Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:50 am

Thanks
:)
Thanks
:)
  • Quote Ciderman

Re: peace and love

Post by Ciderman Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:43 pm

5 Cotton Fields - Andrew on original release? Shane lead vocals on the 2013 Remaster. Shane always sang this live. And Andrew always sang The Star of the County Down live

12 Tombstone. Terry Woods

17 Train Of Love - Jem? Yeah I'd say Jem Finer also
5 Cotton Fields - Andrew on original release? Shane lead vocals on the 2013 Remaster. Shane always sang this live. And Andrew always sang The Star of the County Down live

12 Tombstone. Terry Woods

17 Train Of Love - Jem? Yeah I'd say Jem Finer also
  • Quote Johnny the Slider

Re: peace and love

Post by Johnny the Slider Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:30 am

Hi
I just rejoined this forum after a number of years to ask pretty much the same question.
I posted this on another more general music forum to which I belong, and got no joy.
So I thought - why not ask the people who might know?

This was my post:
Shane contributes far less than his previous lion's share of the songwriting and sits back to allow the others their turn in the spotlight.
There are no performers credits on the album insert though.
I'm trying to definitively pin down who is singing lead on which songs
Pretty certain that Terry Woods sings all three of his songs (I'm talking about the expanded 2004 edition) and Phil Chevron his two...
And that is Andrew Rankin singing Star of the County Down etc
But what do we reckon?


1 Gridlock - Instrumental
2 White City - Shane
3 Young Ned Of The Hill - Terry
4 Misty Morning, Albert Bridge - Shane
5 Cotton Fields - Andrew?
6 Blue Heaven - Phil
7 Down All The Days - Shane
8 USA - Shane
9 Lorelei Phil (and Kirsty Maccoll)
10 Gartloney Rats - Terry
11 Boat Train - Shane
12 Tombstone - is it Jem? He wrote it but he doesn't usually sing
13 Night Train To Lorca - Shane
14 London You're A Lady - Shane
Bonus Tracks
15 Star Of The County Down - Andrew
16 The Limerick Rake - Shane
17 Train Of Love - Jem? Again, he wrote it. Sounds like Spider on co lead though
18 Everyman Is King - Terry
19 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah - Shane
20 Honky Tonk Women - Spider

If that is right, and we count co-leads, that is seven different lead vocalists on one album...
Hi
I just rejoined this forum after a number of years to ask pretty much the same question.
I posted this on another more general music forum to which I belong, and got no joy.
So I thought - why not ask the people who might know?

This was my post:
Shane contributes far less than his previous lion's share of the songwriting and sits back to allow the others their turn in the spotlight.
There are no performers credits on the album insert though.
I'm trying to definitively pin down who is singing lead on which songs
Pretty certain that Terry Woods sings all three of his songs (I'm talking about the expanded 2004 edition) and Phil Chevron his two...
And that is Andrew Rankin singing Star of the County Down etc
But what do we reckon?


1 Gridlock - Instrumental
2 White City - Shane
3 Young Ned Of The Hill - Terry
4 Misty Morning, Albert Bridge - Shane
5 Cotton Fields - Andrew?
6 Blue Heaven - Phil
7 Down All The Days - Shane
8 USA - Shane
9 Lorelei Phil (and Kirsty Maccoll)
10 Gartloney Rats - Terry
11 Boat Train - Shane
12 Tombstone - is it Jem? He wrote it but he doesn't usually sing
13 Night Train To Lorca - Shane
14 London You're A Lady - Shane
Bonus Tracks
15 Star Of The County Down - Andrew
16 The Limerick Rake - Shane
17 Train Of Love - Jem? Again, he wrote it. Sounds like Spider on co lead though
18 Everyman Is King - Terry
19 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah - Shane
20 Honky Tonk Women - Spider

If that is right, and we count co-leads, that is seven different lead vocalists on one album...

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