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  • Quote Lade

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Lade Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:25 am

Low D wrote:And original editon for sale here... for a mere £1,000.00 (+ shipping) :shock:

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/816899984?utm_campaign=sell_email_new&utm_medium=pm&format=Vinyl&text=Pogue-Mahone-Dark-Streets-Of-London&ev=wh_new&utm_source=relationship


What a bargain :shock:
[quote="Low D"]And original editon for sale here... for a mere £1,000.00 (+ shipping) :shock:

[url]https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/816899984?utm_campaign=sell_email_new&utm_medium=pm&format=Vinyl&text=Pogue-Mahone-Dark-Streets-Of-London&ev=wh_new&utm_source=relationship[/url][/quote]

What a bargain :shock:
  • Quote Low D

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Low D Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:29 am

And original editon for sale here... for a mere £1,000.00 (+ shipping) :shock:

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/816899984?utm_campaign=sell_email_new&utm_medium=pm&format=Vinyl&text=Pogue-Mahone-Dark-Streets-Of-London&ev=wh_new&utm_source=relationship
And original editon for sale here... for a mere £1,000.00 (+ shipping) :shock:

[url]https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/816899984?utm_campaign=sell_email_new&utm_medium=pm&format=Vinyl&text=Pogue-Mahone-Dark-Streets-Of-London&ev=wh_new&utm_source=relationship[/url]
  • Quote addseo1115

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by addseo1115 Wed May 27, 2015 4:05 am

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  • Quote GingerMan

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by GingerMan Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:21 am

The Pogue Mahone one is from 1984, the Pogues one is a little later, when thy signed to Stiff, end of story. I know, I was there and stayed there ever since. stop being all fecking train-spotter about it.

Just wondering, what does a Pogue do when they are not playing on St Patrick's Day?
The Pogue Mahone one is from 1984, the Pogues one is a little later, when thy signed to Stiff, end of story. I know, I was there and stayed there ever since. stop being all fecking train-spotter about it.

Just wondering, what does a Pogue do when they are not playing on St Patrick's Day?
  • Quote Lade

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Lade Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:35 pm

A similar font is used on the 1984 Stiff Records pressing of the single. This pressing Stiff BUY 207 is definitely from 1984.
I Also have a PM1 with picture label with the Harp sticker.

http://www.bestiff.co.uk/buy/buy201-300 ... buy207.htm

http://www.ktv.no/~oyl-ktv/darkstreetsharp.jpg
A similar font is used on the 1984 Stiff Records pressing of the single. This pressing Stiff BUY 207 is definitely from 1984.
I Also have a PM1 with picture label with the Harp sticker.

http://www.bestiff.co.uk/buy/buy201-300/buy207/buy207.htm

http://www.ktv.no/~oyl-ktv/darkstreetsharp.jpg
  • Quote Fr. McGreer

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Fr. McGreer Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:49 am

Lade wrote:
thefinaltaxi wrote:So I may be right that the larger part of this second Pogue Mahone pressing might not have been released until the decline of Stiff Records in 1988.
What do you think? This might explain why in 1988 suddenly regular mailorders had bigger stock of new and unplayed copies of that Pogue Mahone pressing.


The person behind http://www.rockonrecords.com/ sold quite a few of the PM1 picture label pressings in mint condition and did so until recently on musicstack. It seems he had a few boxes left in storage after the store closed. I bought two from him a few years ago. Those copies has never been played.


Hi guys, i've just picked up a copy of this PM1 picture label pressing and having seen it in the flesh so to speak (before i paid 12 euro for it) i also think it's from 1988. The biggest giveaway to say that it is not from 1984 is the font used for Pogue Mahone. The band never used this hand writing type of font until the single release of IISFFGWG. As soon as you see this 7" single, it's so obvious.

I still bought it though :roll:
[quote="Lade"][quote="thefinaltaxi"]
So I may be right that the larger part of this second Pogue Mahone pressing might not have been released until the decline of Stiff Records in 1988.
What do you think? This might explain why in 1988 suddenly regular mailorders had bigger stock of new and unplayed copies of that Pogue Mahone pressing.[/quote]

The person behind http://www.rockonrecords.com/ sold quite a few of the PM1 picture label pressings in mint condition and did so until recently on musicstack. It seems he had a few boxes left in storage after the store closed. I bought two from him a few years ago. Those copies has never been played. [/quote]

Hi guys, i've just picked up a copy of this PM1 picture label pressing and having seen it in the flesh so to speak (before i paid 12 euro for it) i also think it's from 1988. The biggest giveaway to say that it is not from 1984 is the font used for [i]Pogue Mahone[/i]. The band never used this hand writing type of font until the single release of IISFFGWG. As soon as you see this 7" single, it's so obvious.

I still bought it though :roll:
  • Quote GingerMan

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by GingerMan Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:12 pm

Just to add my recollections, which are from outside the metropolis of London, where I had no access to Rock On or records for sale at gigs.

I bought DSL in Coventry. Plain sleeve PM1, no stickers, proper label, band called Pogue Mahone on the label. I bought it early on, after hearing it on John Peel. When Boys from the County Hell was released, initial copies came shrink-wrapped with the stiff version of DSL, proper label, band called The Pogues, plain sleeve, no sticker. Well they did in Coventry anyway!
Just to add my recollections, which are from outside the metropolis of London, where I had no access to Rock On or records for sale at gigs.

I bought DSL in Coventry. Plain sleeve PM1, no stickers, proper label, band called Pogue Mahone on the label. I bought it early on, after hearing it on John Peel. When Boys from the County Hell was released, initial copies came shrink-wrapped with the stiff version of DSL, proper label, band called The Pogues, plain sleeve, no sticker. Well they did in Coventry anyway!
  • Quote thefinaltaxi

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by thefinaltaxi Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:09 pm

Low D wrote: Just to make it confusing, i have this same imprint, w the green label, PM1-A/PM1-AA, but came in a plain white sleeve - yellowed with age, though the vinyl was like new.


The picture label pressing never had a proper sleeve, it always was a plain white sleeve only (except that some of them had the harp sticker on that white sleeve).

There was no picture sleeve at all. Both, the initial pressing and also the Stiff pressing (under the name "The Pogues") never had one as well.
[quote="Low D"] Just to make it confusing, i have this same imprint, w the green label, PM1-A/PM1-AA, but came in a plain white sleeve - yellowed with age, though the vinyl was like new.[/quote]

The picture label pressing never had a proper sleeve, it always was a plain white sleeve only (except that some of them had the harp sticker on that white sleeve).

There was no picture sleeve at all. Both, the initial pressing and also the Stiff pressing (under the name "The Pogues") never had one as well.
  • Quote Low D

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Low D Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:00 pm

Lade wrote:I have all these singles.
The White label copy and Pogue Mahone copy has the same inscriptions in the run-out of the vinyl. orlake, For Luke Kelly and PM1-A on the A-side and orlake and PM1-AA on the other side. They seem to be pressed from the same mould as they are identical.
The white label came in 3 versions.
-White Label PM1
-White Label PM1 with harp sticker.
-White Label PM1 with a sticker with the face of a woman.
Then we have the second pre-stiff pressing with picture label. I also have a picture label pressing with harp sticker.


Just to make it confusing, i have this same imprint, w the green label, PM1-A/PM1-AA, but came in a plain white sleeve - yellowed with age, though the vinyl was like new.

Which i bought on ebay just a couple years ago (cheap enough, so i assumed it was not really any sort of first pressing). The newness of the vinyl, if it's not unique to my copy, seems to suggest that these could be the afore-mentioned "overstock". Esp if there are random/blank sleeves used.
[quote="Lade"]I have all these singles.
The White label copy and Pogue Mahone copy has the same inscriptions in the run-out of the vinyl. orlake, For Luke Kelly and PM1-A on the A-side and orlake and PM1-AA on the other side. They seem to be pressed from the same mould as they are identical.
The white label came in 3 versions.
-White Label PM1
-White Label PM1 with harp sticker.
-White Label PM1 with a sticker with the face of a woman.
Then we have the second pre-stiff pressing with picture label. I also have a picture label pressing with harp sticker.
[/quote]

Just to make it confusing, i have this same imprint, w the green label, PM1-A/PM1-AA, but came in a plain white sleeve - yellowed with age, though the vinyl was like new.

Which i bought on ebay just a couple years ago (cheap enough, so i assumed it was not really any sort of first pressing). The newness of the vinyl, if it's not unique to my copy, seems to suggest that these could be the afore-mentioned "overstock". Esp if there are random/blank sleeves used.
  • Quote DzM

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by DzM Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:15 am

Low D wrote:
DzM wrote:Geez I need to get around to making the Discography group editable.

Some day ... some day.


Could it be made into a wiki?

Can we verb "wiki"?

Could you wiki-ize it? Wiki-ate it? Wiki-cize it?

It is unlikely to be wikiated for reasons altogether unreasonable and my own. Much more likely it will be content-managed. 'Cause that's been on the to-do list for, like, six years now.
[quote="Low D"][quote="DzM"]Geez I need to get around to making the Discography group editable.

Some day ... some day.[/quote]

Could it be made into a wiki?

Can we verb "wiki"?

Could you wiki-ize it? Wiki-ate it? Wiki-cize it?[/quote]
It is unlikely to be wikiated for reasons altogether unreasonable and my own. Much more likely it will be content-managed. 'Cause that's been on the to-do list for, like, six years now.
  • Quote Low D

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Low D Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:25 am

DzM wrote:Geez I need to get around to making the Discography group editable.

Some day ... some day.


Could it be made into a wiki?

Can we verb "wiki"?

Could you wiki-ize it? Wiki-ate it? Wiki-cize it?
[quote="DzM"]Geez I need to get around to making the Discography group editable.

Some day ... some day.[/quote]

Could it be made into a wiki?

Can we verb "wiki"?

Could you wiki-ize it? Wiki-ate it? Wiki-cize it?
  • Quote Kilmichael

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Kilmichael Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:54 pm

I can't add much to the debate other than to say that I think thefinaltaxi is on the right lines regarding the date of the 'coloured label' PM1 release. Me and my mate Nice Tony both bought a copy of that pressing from a record shop in London round about 1988/89 - I can't remember the exact shop but it was something mainstream like HMV or Virgin, and they had plenty of copies. I must admit I've never given it much thought before and assumed they were left over copies of the 1984 pressing, but it makes much more sense for them to be from a later pressing as thefinaltaxi suggests. For what was supposed to be such a rare release it was much easier to get hold of than say the 7" of Boys From The County Hell, which I finally managed to track down at a record fair (complete with off-centre hole so it played wonky!).
I can't add much to the debate other than to say that I think thefinaltaxi is on the right lines regarding the date of the 'coloured label' PM1 release. Me and my mate Nice Tony both bought a copy of that pressing from a record shop in London round about 1988/89 - I can't remember the exact shop but it was something mainstream like HMV or Virgin, and they had plenty of copies. I must admit I've never given it much thought before and assumed they were left over copies of the 1984 pressing, but it makes much more sense for them to be from a later pressing as thefinaltaxi suggests. For what was supposed to be such a rare release it was much easier to get hold of than say the 7" of Boys From The County Hell, which I finally managed to track down at a record fair (complete with off-centre hole so it played wonky!).
  • Quote DzM

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by DzM Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:32 pm

Geez I need to get around to making the Discography group editable.

Some day ... some day.
Geez I need to get around to making the Discography group editable.

Some day ... some day.
  • Quote thefinaltaxi

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by thefinaltaxi Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:03 pm

Finally it makes some sense.

It seems that 2000 copies of this edition were indeed pressed in 1984 (according to Stan Brennen in the book) and they even sold the first bunch of these with left over harp stickers (mentioned by several owners of that edition). But already one month later the same 7" was officially released by Stiff Records under the new band name.
So it's not unlikely that a large amount of these 2000 copies were not sold in that month and weren't in circulation until 1988, when Stiff Records was in decline and The Pogues records were (again) released under the Pogue Mahone label moniker. As I stated above, I bought a new copy of that relase in 1988 via a mailorder where it was sold in bigger amounts and the price was the same as for any other new release. And, as Lade says, it seems that there are still some left.
Finally it makes some sense.

It seems that 2000 copies of this edition were indeed pressed in 1984 (according to Stan Brennen in the book) and they even sold the first bunch of these with left over harp stickers (mentioned by several owners of that edition). But already one month later the same 7" was officially released by Stiff Records under the new band name.
So it's not unlikely that a large amount of these 2000 copies were not sold in that month and weren't in circulation until 1988, when Stiff Records was in decline and The Pogues records were (again) released under the Pogue Mahone label moniker. As I stated above, I bought a new copy of that relase in 1988 via a mailorder where it was sold in bigger amounts and the price was the same as for any other new release. And, as Lade says, it seems that there are still some left.
  • Quote Lade

Re: Pogue Mahone / Dark Streets 7" editions

Post by Lade Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:39 pm

thefinaltaxi wrote:So I may be right that the larger part of this second Pogue Mahone pressing might not have been released until the decline of Stiff Records in 1988.
What do you think? This might explain why in 1988 suddenly regular mailorders had bigger stock of new and unplayed copies of that Pogue Mahone pressing.


The person behind http://www.rockonrecords.com/ sold quite a few of the PM1 picture label pressings in mint condition and did so until recently on musicstack. It seems he had a few boxes left in storage after the store closed. I bought two from him a few years ago. Those copies has never been played.

Also a black label test pressing exists according to shanemacgowan.de
[quote="thefinaltaxi"]
So I may be right that the larger part of this second Pogue Mahone pressing might not have been released until the decline of Stiff Records in 1988.
What do you think? This might explain why in 1988 suddenly regular mailorders had bigger stock of new and unplayed copies of that Pogue Mahone pressing.[/quote]

The person behind http://www.rockonrecords.com/ sold quite a few of the PM1 picture label pressings in mint condition and did so until recently on musicstack. It seems he had a few boxes left in storage after the store closed. I bought two from him a few years ago. Those copies has never been played.

Also a black label test pressing exists according to shanemacgowan.de

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