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  • Quote dsweeney

Re: Traditional songs

Post by dsweeney Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:39 am

I would have loved to hear The Pogues do a version of " Fiddler's green ". I think musically it would have been perfect and would have sat nicely alongside " Sea shanty " and " Greenland whale fisheries " and other seafaring songs they did." ...just tell me ol' shipmates, I'm taking a trip mates and I'll see you some day on fiddler's green." Not for a long while yet I hope.
I would have loved to hear The Pogues do a version of " Fiddler's green ". I think musically it would have been perfect and would have sat nicely alongside " Sea shanty " and " Greenland whale fisheries " and other seafaring songs they did." ...just tell me ol' shipmates, I'm taking a trip mates and I'll see you some day on fiddler's green." Not for a long while yet I hope.
  • Quote dsweeney

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Post by dsweeney Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:19 am

Behan wrote:Is it true that the traditional sounding tune Planxty Noel Hill was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."?

I lost all respect towards Noel after hearing that. Not that I gave a crap about Noel Hill anyway.


"Planxty Noel Hill " is one of my favourite Pogues instrumentals along with " Wild cats of Kilkenny " and the gorgeous " Shanne Breadley". And you are right, while it may have been written by Jem, it IS a "tradtional sounding tune", as you say.In the same way, " The battle march medley " is more a tradtional sounding tune than fuckin' " Fiesta ", even though it was written by the very splendid T.Woods.
[quote="Behan"]Is it true that the traditional sounding tune [b]Planxty Noel Hill[/b] was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."?

I lost all respect towards Noel after hearing that. Not that I gave a crap about Noel Hill anyway.[/quote]

"Planxty Noel Hill " is one of my favourite Pogues instrumentals along with " Wild cats of Kilkenny " and the gorgeous " Shanne Breadley". And you are right, while it may have been written by Jem, it IS a "tradtional sounding tune", as you say.In the same way, " The battle march medley " is more a tradtional sounding tune than fuckin' " Fiesta ", even though it was written by the very splendid T.Woods.
  • Quote firehazard

Post by firehazard Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:37 am

Behan wrote:Is it true that the traditional sounding tune Planxty Noel Hill was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."?


Yep, the story is that Noel Hill described the Pogues' music as "a terrible abortion". It's recounted in chapter 2 of The Lost Decade.
[quote="Behan"]Is it true that the traditional sounding tune [b]Planxty Noel Hill[/b] was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."? [/quote]

Yep, the story is that Noel Hill described the Pogues' music as "a terrible abortion". It's recounted in chapter 2 of [i]The Lost Decade[/i].
  • Quote Zuzana

Post by Zuzana Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:36 am

Behan wrote:Is it true that the traditional sounding tune Planxty Noel Hill was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."?

That they were "a terrible abortion" of Irish music to be precise. Or so the biographers put it. :)
[quote="Behan"]Is it true that the traditional sounding tune [b]Planxty Noel Hill[/b] was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."?[/quote]
That they were "a terrible abortion" of Irish music to be precise. Or so the biographers put it. :)
  • Quote Behan

Post by Behan Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:21 am

Is it true that the traditional sounding tune Planxty Noel Hill was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."?

I lost all respect towards Noel after hearing that. Not that I gave a crap about Noel Hill anyway.
Is it true that the traditional sounding tune [b]Planxty Noel Hill[/b] was recorded after Noel Hill had bad things to say about the Pogues, saying something like, "The Pogues can't play Irish music..."?

I lost all respect towards Noel after hearing that. Not that I gave a crap about Noel Hill anyway.
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:18 pm

Seems to me like a great brand new reason for Shane to hang around to extreme old age - so that it takes as long as possible for the world to get its maws on his copyrights. I'll mention it next week when I see him.
Seems to me like a great brand new reason for Shane to hang around to extreme old age - so that it takes as long as possible for the world to get its maws on his copyrights. I'll mention it next week when I see him.
  • Quote Eckhard

Post by Eckhard Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:53 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Eckhard wrote:Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )


Not so fast! Wait until we're 50 years dead at least!


Sorry. But I am pretty certainly dead then as well ( especially when thinking of Shane who might become 150 years - only to annoy those who predicted his early death ). :cry:
[quote="philipchevron"][quote="Eckhard"]Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )[/quote]

Not so fast! Wait until we're 50 years dead at least![/quote]

Sorry. But I am pretty certainly dead then as well ( especially when thinking of Shane who might become 150 years - only to annoy those who predicted his early death ). :cry:
  • Quote DzM

Post by DzM Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:52 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Eckhard wrote:Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )

Not so fast! Wait until we're 50 years dead at least!

But it's already been established that Shane will outlive us all just to spite us.
[quote="philipchevron"][quote="Eckhard"]Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )[/quote]
Not so fast! Wait until we're 50 years dead at least![/quote]
But it's already been established that Shane will outlive us all just to spite us.
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:42 pm

Eckhard wrote:Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )


Not so fast! Wait until we're 50 years dead at least!
[quote="Eckhard"]Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )[/quote]

Not so fast! Wait until we're 50 years dead at least!
  • Quote evilaxeman0

Post by evilaxeman0 Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:13 pm

kitty is an amazing trad, if a rare one, was beautiful live

also love the reel at the end of turkish song od the damned
kitty is an amazing trad, if a rare one, was beautiful live

also love the reel at the end of turkish song od the damned
  • Quote Eckhard

Post by Eckhard Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:09 pm

Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )
Many Pogues songs can already be considered traditional songs imho ( FoNY, Pair of brown Eyes, etc. )
  • Quote soulfinger

Post by soulfinger Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:08 pm

Seeing Poor Paddy done live was an unexpected bonus on the 06 tour :D
Seeing Poor Paddy done live was an unexpected bonus on the 06 tour :D
  • Quote JohnG

Traditional songs

Post by JohnG Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:06 pm

As well as their own compositions, the band have of course covered a lot of traditional songs. My particular favourite is the medley of the Recruiting Sergeant/Rocky Road to Dublin/Galway Races. In particular, I think they take Rocky Road on to a completely different plane. But, there are also so many others...Waxies Dargle springs to mind. (Some Pogues songs almost sound really traditional...Broad Majestic Shannon might be regarded as a traditional Irish song in decades to come!)

Thought anyone?
As well as their own compositions, the band have of course covered a lot of traditional songs. My particular favourite is the medley of the Recruiting Sergeant/Rocky Road to Dublin/Galway Races. In particular, I think they take Rocky Road on to a completely different plane. But, there are also so many others...Waxies Dargle springs to mind. (Some Pogues songs almost sound really traditional...Broad Majestic Shannon might be regarded as a traditional Irish song in decades to come!)

Thought anyone?
  • Quote Beisty

Post by Beisty Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:03 am

It may not be a traditional tune, but I would love to hear them take on the old Johnny McEvoy classic, “O’Sullivan’s John”.

When I was growing up my Mum used to play this all the time and it is one of those songs I have always had a fondness for.

Also, what about Carrickfergus?
It may not be a traditional tune, but I would love to hear them take on the old Johnny McEvoy classic, “O’Sullivan’s John”.

When I was growing up my Mum used to play this all the time and it is one of those songs I have always had a fondness for.

Also, what about Carrickfergus?
  • Quote Christine

Post by Christine Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:56 am

I'd love to hear that Bannerman recording.

There is a Danny Boy in Straight to Hell, hauntingly sung by Cait, in a scene which looks just like Michelangelo's Last Supper.
I'd love to hear that Bannerman recording.

There is a Danny Boy in Straight to Hell, hauntingly sung by Cait, in a scene which looks just like Michelangelo's Last Supper.

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