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  • Quote CraigBatty

Post by CraigBatty Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:15 am

8) Cheers muchly fer the linkage, compadre! I'll be sure to check it out! 8)
8) Cheers muchly fer the linkage, compadre! I'll be sure to check it out! 8)
  • Quote seamus_mcshanty1

Post by seamus_mcshanty1 Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:06 am

Fintan wrote:Thanks, Séamus. So have you seen them live often? What's the rest of their material like?
Just once a few years back. They've released their first album in 91 and broke up in 03 check them out here http://www.facetofacemusic.com/2005/home.htm
[quote="Fintan"]Thanks, Séamus. So have you seen them live often? What's the rest of their material like?[/quote] Just once a few years back. They've released their first album in 91 and broke up in 03 check them out here http://www.facetofacemusic.com/2005/home.htm
  • Quote CraigBatty

Post by CraigBatty Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:29 pm

Thanks, Séamus. So have you seen them live often? What's the rest of their material like?
Thanks, Séamus. So have you seen them live often? What's the rest of their material like?
  • Quote seamus_mcshanty1

Post by seamus_mcshanty1 Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:11 pm

Fintan wrote:
seamus_mcshanty1 wrote:the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street


Where are they from? Congrats on yer first post, by the way. :wink:
Face to Face are from California, U.S.A.
[quote="Fintan"][quote="seamus_mcshanty1"]the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street[/quote]

Where are they from? Congrats on yer first post, by the way. :wink:[/quote]Face to Face are from California, U.S.A.
  • Quote CraigBatty

Post by CraigBatty Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:23 pm

seamus_mcshanty1 wrote:the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street


Where are they from? Congrats on yer first post, by the way. :wink:
[quote="seamus_mcshanty1"]the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street[/quote]

Where are they from? Congrats on yer first post, by the way. :wink:
  • Quote seamus_mcshanty1

Post by seamus_mcshanty1 Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:20 pm

the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street
the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street
  • Quote scott

Post by scott Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:14 pm

WHAT????? How on earth can you call this a throwaway track??? IMO it is one of the key tracks on that album!


scott

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: Hell's Ditch opinions?
and Jem Finer's Wake of the Medusa are the real throwaway tracks.
WHAT????? How on earth can you call this a throwaway track??? IMO it is one of the key tracks on that album!


scott

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: Hell's Ditch opinions?
and Jem Finer's Wake of the Medusa are the real throwaway tracks.
  • Quote radioclash

Post by radioclash Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:14 pm

I think White City is one of the best Pogues songs ever. I also like how the zydeco influence on James' accordion playing and the bluegrass influence on Jem's banjo playing are less subtle on this album..
I think White City is one of the best Pogues songs ever. I also like how the zydeco influence on James' accordion playing and the bluegrass influence on Jem's banjo playing are less subtle on this album..
  • Quote sheva

Post by sheva Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:12 pm

I love them both, and find a lot in both to enjoy.

But if you held a gun to my head and forced me to choose, I think I'd have to go with Peace and Love. It's close, mind you!
I love them both, and find a lot in both to enjoy.

But if you held a gun to my head and forced me to choose, I think I'd have to go with Peace and Love. It's close, mind you!
  • Quote pogues22

Hell's Ditch opinions?

Post by pogues22 Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:08 pm

The last two albums of the MacGowan era Pogues have always been rather polarized. Overall, most people prefer Hell's Ditch to Peace and Love, on the grounds that the album flows better. I still on outside, by saying I prefer Peace and Love to Hell's Ditch. I though Peace and Love was still more closer to The Pogues original sound. I think Hell's Ditch is just to wordly. Don't get me wrong I love the overall relaxed and pastoral vibe that surrounds the album. I wouldn't go as far as MacGowan does by disowning it, but Hell's Ditch does have some songs that are real throwaways. However, it also contains some tracks that are pure magic. Shane MacGowan seems in a global mood, and most of the songs that he wrote for this album draw on his experiences in Thailand (The Sunnyside of the Street, Sayonara, Summer In Siam, and House of the Gods,) and also Spain (Lorca's Novena and Hell's Ditch) Only Rain Street and The Ghost of a Smile remind me of The Pogues of old. All the songs that I listed however, are great, only Terry Wood's Rainbow Man and Six To Go and Jem Finer's Wake of the Medusa are the real throwaway tracks. I think Maidrin Rua is a fantastic, but far too short, instrumental. Also 5 Green Queens and Jean reminds me of Bob Dylan. Overall, it did take me a few listens to finally get into the vibe of Hell's Ditch, but once I did I started to enjoy the album. However, I'll still go on record and say that I thought Peace and Love was still all around better.
The last two albums of the MacGowan era Pogues have always been rather polarized. Overall, most people prefer Hell's Ditch to Peace and Love, on the grounds that the album flows better. I still on outside, by saying I prefer Peace and Love to Hell's Ditch. I though Peace and Love was still more closer to The Pogues original sound. I think Hell's Ditch is just to wordly. Don't get me wrong I love the overall relaxed and pastoral vibe that surrounds the album. I wouldn't go as far as MacGowan does by disowning it, but Hell's Ditch does have some songs that are real throwaways. However, it also contains some tracks that are pure magic. Shane MacGowan seems in a global mood, and most of the songs that he wrote for this album draw on his experiences in Thailand (The Sunnyside of the Street, Sayonara, Summer In Siam, and House of the Gods,) and also Spain (Lorca's Novena and Hell's Ditch) Only Rain Street and The Ghost of a Smile remind me of The Pogues of old. All the songs that I listed however, are great, only Terry Wood's Rainbow Man and Six To Go and Jem Finer's Wake of the Medusa are the real throwaway tracks. I think Maidrin Rua is a fantastic, but far too short, instrumental. Also 5 Green Queens and Jean reminds me of Bob Dylan. Overall, it did take me a few listens to finally get into the vibe of Hell's Ditch, but once I did I started to enjoy the album. However, I'll still go on record and say that I thought Peace and Love was still all around better.
  • Quote PETE G

Post by PETE G Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:42 am

philipchevron wrote:These two albums are each other's yin and yan and are best appreciated as a pair.


what a load of bollox!
[quote="philipchevron"]These two albums are each other's yin and yan and are best appreciated as a pair.[/quote]

what a load of bollox!
  • Quote MultipleMike

Post by MultipleMike Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:36 pm

I still can't stop listening to the Peace and Love album. I think, as individual songwriters, this is the Pogues finest moment. The experimental songs flow really well with the album, and gave a nice fresh feeling from the Pogues, you know? It's like what the White album was to the Beatles; it is the album where the members grew as individual musicians, and wrote some truly terrific tunes of their own.
I still can't stop listening to the Peace and Love album. I think, as individual songwriters, this is the Pogues finest moment. The experimental songs flow really well with the album, and gave a nice fresh feeling from the Pogues, you know? It's like what the White album was to the Beatles; it is the album where the members grew as individual musicians, and wrote some truly terrific tunes of their own.
  • Quote Paddy Rolling Clone

Post by Paddy Rolling Clone Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:13 am

Both fantastic albums. Very fond of Lorelai & Misty Morning, Albert Bridge. Been listening to those two a lot lately.
Both fantastic albums. Very fond of Lorelai & Misty Morning, Albert Bridge. Been listening to those two a lot lately.
  • Quote dawson

Post by dawson Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:09 am

white city is a cracker
white city is a cracker
  • Quote Phil

Post by Phil Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:20 am

the_wild_rover wrote:Going to have to go with "Peace and Love". You can't beat "Young Ned of the Hill" and "London you're a Lady".



Any of Shane's songs are superior to Jem's in my opinion but I do still love Curse of Love.
[quote="the_wild_rover"]Going to have to go with "Peace and Love". You can't beat "Young Ned of the Hill" and "London you're a Lady".[/quote]


Any of Shane's songs are superior to Jem's in my opinion but I do still love Curse of Love.

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