Hennybhoy wrote:County Hell = London

I think....

yes, you're right...gotta think about what Shane said about London...for instance, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AooP0WyOCHw

County Hell = London

I think....

On another level, I must ask what "County Hell" refers to? I kind of assumed it referred to County Down, but that might be my own wishful thinking, as my ancestors hail from that county.

I maybe just a stupid yankee, but when I heard the "five green bottles" lyric, I always imagined absinth.

well thanks on all that, the tattoo should be great with a smokey horse running out of an empty bottle of wine, haha

4 in the afternoon, and drunk as fuck, just like everyone else should be..

cheers

John C wrote:They can probably be whatever you want them to be!

Exactly. That's what I meant. But you said it better!

Dropofpoison wrote:I always assumed it to be beer

I always thought of it as wine. More specifically I always thought of them as bottles of red wine. For no reason at all - it's just what came into my head at the time.

They can probably be whatever you want them to be!

I remember reading that it was just playing with words from the Nursery rhyme "10 green bottles sitting on a wall.....and if one green bottle should accidently fall there would be nine" etc etc.Mr Chevron might be able to give a better answer.

thanks, trying to incorporate it into a tattoo, so that helps a bit

Stom138 wrote:not quite sure if this is the right place to put it or not, and i've sorta looked through the forums for the answer to this question, but i haven't found it just yet

the "five green bottles" that is described in the lyrics, does anyone know what KIND of bottles those are? i know they're liquor bottles, but what sort of liquor?

thanks!

It's probably fair to assume they are beer bottles, though to be honest I doubt there is a "correct" answer to this one.

I always assumed it to be beer, but I don't know for sure. 15 bottles more of anything much stronger would be OTT, even by Shane's standards.

not quite sure if this is the right place to put it or not, and i've sorta looked through the forums for the answer to this question, but i haven't found it just yet

the "five green bottles" that is described in the lyrics, does anyone know what KIND of bottles those are? i know they're liquor bottles, but what sort of liquor?

thanks!

And let's not forget, despite the ramblings and rantings of the American Right about "conspiracy" and "false chrges", that the landscape has not greatly improved:
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CHICAGO (Reuters) - A U.S. soldier convicted by a military court in the gang rape and murder of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her family was sentenced to 110 years in prison on Saturday, the Army said.

Pvt. Jesse Spielman, 22, received a dishonorable discharge after being found guilty of four counts of murder, rape, conspiracy to commit rape and housebreaking with the intent to commit rape by a military court at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky.

Spielman was one of five soldiers charged in the March 2006 attack on the family in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad. Three soldiers previously pleaded guilty in the case and were given sentences ranging from five to 100 years.

Spielman, the court found, participated in the planning of the attack as the soldiers drank whiskey and played cards, and acted as a lookout.

At the start of the weeklong hearing, Spielman pleaded guilty to wrongful touching of a corpse, arson, obstructing justice and violating rules against drinking alcohol in a war zone.

Sgt. Paul Cortez and Spc. James Barker were sentenced to 90 years and 100 years in prison, respectively.

The accused ringleader, former Pvt. Steven Green, was discharged from the Army for a "personality disorder" and awaits trial in a civilian court. He has pleaded not guilty and faces a possible death sentence.

Cortez and Barker, who both testified at Spielman's court-martial, admitted raping the girl, Abeer Qassim al-Janabiat, and said Green shot her parents and younger sister. Green then raped the girl and killed her, and they poured kerosene over her body and set it on fire in an attempt to hide evidence of the crime, they testified.

Another soldier, Pvt. Bryan Howard, admitted to monitoring radio traffic and was given a five-year sentence.

The killings outraged Iraqis and ratcheted up tension in the war zone.

philipchevron wrote:Somewhere inside every steaming pile of crap lies the possibility of finding a truffle.

Well put. Describing what some racist bastard has done by using racist language is not being racist, not using the figurative words would be cowardish and maybe even approving.. Its all about the context.

Anyway I don´t think talking about "raping gooks" or "My Lai" have much difference in content. They both work just as well in the song, the original lyrics are better for the simple reason that they are original, that´s the way Shane meant it. Its just another example of how hypocrite being PC is.

Johnny Come Lately wrote:I was looking at the lyrics for BFTCH in the Red Roses For Me cd booklet, and the lyric "my brother earned his medals raping gooks in Vietnam" sounds nothing like what Shane sings on the actual track.
Is there a story behind this?

On the album the song reads, "my brother earned his medals at Mai Lai in Viet Nam".

Mai Lai was a massacre, basically a war crime that US soldiers perpetrated, so to say he earned his medals at Mai Lai, is on the one hand a bit more subtle, yet it conveys the same meaning...and I like it better because being less blunt makes a listener think more.

I too, have seen that lyric printed, but I have not heard that version. I am sure it is out there. I wonder if it was changed to appease someone's (a record executive's?) delicate sensibilities. But I think the Mai Lai reference is an improvement, so I don't think so.