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  • Quote brumsongs

Re: Reissues - why Matilda twice?

Post by brumsongs Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:32 pm

I remember the St pat's show in Brixton (1990?) OPENING with a stunning version of mathilda. It was quite shocking at the time, so unexpected was it.
I remember the St pat's show in Brixton (1990?) OPENING with a stunning version of mathilda. It was quite shocking at the time, so unexpected was it.
  • Quote Dead-Rabbit-Dan

Re: And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

Post by Dead-Rabbit-Dan Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:20 pm

I was stunned when i heard this live on the December tour, as i've always loved this song and never thought i'd ever hear it in a live setting. It was a proper hairs-on-the-back-of-your-neck moment. Even after all this time and all these gigs the boys can still surprise me!
I was stunned when i heard this live on the December tour, as i've always loved this song and never thought i'd ever hear it in a live setting. It was a proper hairs-on-the-back-of-your-neck moment. Even after all this time and all these gigs the boys can still surprise me!
  • Quote RICHB

Re: And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

Post by RICHB Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:30 pm

phro37 wrote:i've only ever heard the shorter version played live. and at a relatively quicker tempo. i'd love to get a good soppy long version one of these days. when i'm wallowing in veteran self pitty and nostalgia i like it to last

Do you mean live?? The long version is on R,S and L but of course you knowwwww that :D
[quote="phro37"]i've only ever heard the shorter version played live. and at a relatively quicker tempo. i'd love to get a good soppy long version one of these days. when i'm wallowing in veteran self pitty and nostalgia i like it to last[/quote]
Do you mean live?? The long version is on R,S and L but of course you knowwwww that :D
  • Quote phro37

Re: And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

Post by phro37 Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:17 am

i've only ever heard the shorter version played live. and at a relatively quicker tempo. i'd love to get a good soppy long version one of these days. when i'm wallowing in veteran self pitty and nostalgia i like it to last
i've only ever heard the shorter version played live. and at a relatively quicker tempo. i'd love to get a good soppy long version one of these days. when i'm wallowing in veteran self pitty and nostalgia i like it to last
  • Quote RICHB

Re: And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

Post by RICHB Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:09 am

Thanks for that :D :D
Thanks for that :D :D
  • Quote Kilmichael

Re: And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

Post by Kilmichael Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:45 am

Compared to the RSL version the B side version has the 2nd and 4th verses missing, plus has brass on it. As far as I know they have only ever played the B side 3 verse version live, compared to the RSL 5 verse version.
Compared to the RSL version the B side version has the 2nd and 4th verses missing, plus has brass on it. As far as I know they have only ever played the B side 3 verse version live, compared to the RSL 5 verse version.
  • Quote RICHB

And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

Post by RICHB Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:03 am

Whats the difference between the B) side/extra on Red Roses for me and the Rum Sodomy and the Lash version? Its a verse missing isnt it but wich one?? I could check tonight when I get home from work but if anyone knows that would be great. PS I have checke the DISC area here but they both appear the same :D
Whats the difference between the B) side/extra on Red Roses for me and the Rum Sodomy and the Lash version? Its a verse missing isnt it but wich one?? I could check tonight when I get home from work but if anyone knows that would be great. PS I have checke the DISC area here but they both appear the same :D
  • Quote Dropofpoison

Post by Dropofpoison Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:31 am

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".


Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?


Weren't the licensing laws repealed like 100 years ago?
[quote="The Duke of Ingmar"][quote="philipchevron"]

I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".[/quote]

Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?[/quote]

Weren't the licensing laws repealed like 100 years ago?
  • Quote theCOOP

Post by theCOOP Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:51 pm

I've seen mention of it before, but please refresh my memory..."licensing laws"?

I too love Squid Out Of Water, Infinity and Curse of Love. Still can't understand the decision to leave them off the album.

So many of the B-sides...especially from those albums which most people seem to agree lacked something, could've made them truly wonderful albums IMO.
I've seen mention of it before, but please refresh my memory..."licensing laws"?

I too love Squid Out Of Water, Infinity and Curse of Love. Still can't understand the decision to leave them off the album.

So many of the B-sides...especially from those albums which most people seem to agree lacked something, could've made them truly wonderful albums IMO.
  • Quote firehazard

Post by firehazard Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:36 am

philipchevron wrote:
The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".


Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?


Yes, we succeeded. We now play it in celebration of the fact that common sense finally caught up with the Government. Even, yes, a Tony Blair government.


And gloriously, the tune was played on BBC2's Newsnight during their report on the day the new law came into operation.
[quote="philipchevron"][quote="The Duke of Ingmar"][quote="philipchevron"]

I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".[/quote]

Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?[/quote]

Yes, we succeeded. We now play it in celebration of the fact that common sense finally caught up with the Government. Even, yes, a Tony Blair government.[/quote]

And gloriously, the tune was played on BBC2's Newsnight during their report on the day the new law came into operation.
  • Quote The Duke of Ingmar

Post by The Duke of Ingmar Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:43 am

philipchevron wrote:
Yes, we succeeded. We now play it in celebration of the fact that common sense finally caught up with the Government. Even, yes, a Tony Blair government.


Then please don´t hesitate to come over to Germany ... our government certainly needs common sense, too ... :D
[quote="philipchevron"]

Yes, we succeeded. We now play it in celebration of the fact that common sense finally caught up with the Government. Even, yes, a Tony Blair government.[/quote]

Then please don´t hesitate to come over to Germany ... our government certainly needs common sense, too ... :D
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:49 pm

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".


Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?


Yes, we succeeded. We now play it in celebration of the fact that common sense finally caught up with the Government. Even, yes, a Tony Blair government.
[quote="The Duke of Ingmar"][quote="philipchevron"]

I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".[/quote]

Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?[/quote]

Yes, we succeeded. We now play it in celebration of the fact that common sense finally caught up with the Government. Even, yes, a Tony Blair government.
  • Quote The Duke of Ingmar

Post by The Duke of Ingmar Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:06 pm

philipchevron wrote:
I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".


Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?
[quote="philipchevron"]

I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".[/quote]

Did you succeed in repealing the licensing laws ? Or was the message too subtle ?
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:53 pm

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:As we´re now talking about the 1991 "A rainy night in Soho" I´d really like to know who had the idea of each member presenting their instrument in the single´s B-side "Squid out of water". Was it Shane cos he´s credited with writing the song ?

I´ve always liked "Squid out of water" but somehow I always had the feeling that this was "intended" as a farewell song, due to Shane´s farewell from the Pogues around the same time. Was this actually the last recording with Shane ?


I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".
[quote="The Duke of Ingmar"]As we´re now talking about the 1991 "A rainy night in Soho" I´d really like to know who had the idea of each member presenting their instrument in the single´s B-side "Squid out of water". Was it Shane cos he´s credited with writing the song ?

I´ve always liked "Squid out of water" but somehow I always had the feeling that this was "intended" as a farewell song, due to Shane´s farewell from the Pogues around the same time. Was this actually the last recording with Shane ?[/quote]

I think you may be reading too much into it. The only Pogues instrumental with a subversive message is "Repeal Of The Licensing Laws".
  • Quote The Duke of Ingmar

Post by The Duke of Ingmar Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:56 pm

As we´re now talking about the 1991 "A rainy night in Soho" I´d really like to know who had the idea of each member presenting their instrument in the single´s B-side "Squid out of water". Was it Shane cos he´s credited with writing the song ?

I´ve always liked "Squid out of water" but somehow I always had the feeling that this was "intended" as a farewell song, due to Shane´s farewell from the Pogues around the same time. Was this actually the last recording with Shane ?
As we´re now talking about the 1991 "A rainy night in Soho" I´d really like to know who had the idea of each member presenting their instrument in the single´s B-side "Squid out of water". Was it Shane cos he´s credited with writing the song ?

I´ve always liked "Squid out of water" but somehow I always had the feeling that this was "intended" as a farewell song, due to Shane´s farewell from the Pogues around the same time. Was this actually the last recording with Shane ?

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