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  • Quote RoddyRuddy

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Post by RoddyRuddy Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:53 am

Zuzana wrote:
RoddyRuddy wrote:Sadly the above link seems to no longer exist.

Links live, links die... And often they have a shorter life span than small rodents. :) The post with link which you refer to is over three years old. But luckily with the box set at hand, the bootleg version of the tune does not seem so crucial any longer.



Still it is sad that this link has gone as it was a good one.
[quote="Zuzana"][quote="RoddyRuddy"]Sadly the above link seems to no longer exist.[/quote]
Links live, links die... And often they have a shorter life span than small rodents. :) The post with link which you refer to is over three years old. But luckily with the box set at hand, the bootleg version of the tune does not seem so crucial any longer.[/quote]


Still it is sad that this link has gone as it was a good one.
  • Quote Zuzana

Post by Zuzana Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:57 pm

RoddyRuddy wrote:Sadly the above link seems to no longer exist.

Links live, links die... And often they have a shorter life span than small rodents. :) The post with link which you refer to is over three years old. But luckily with the box set at hand, the bootleg version of the tune does not seem so crucial any longer.
[quote="RoddyRuddy"]Sadly the above link seems to no longer exist.[/quote]
Links live, links die... And often they have a shorter life span than small rodents. :) The post with link which you refer to is over three years old. But luckily with the box set at hand, the bootleg version of the tune does not seem so crucial any longer.
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Re:

Post by RoddyRuddy Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:51 pm

Zuzana wrote:A year has passed, and The Ballinalee still haunts you? ;)

If you are still interested in hearing the instrumental, open the following link and scroll down - you can find a live bootleg recording of it there.
Link


Sadly the above link seems to no longer exist.
[quote="Zuzana"]A year has passed, and The Ballinalee still haunts you? ;)

If you are still interested in hearing the instrumental, open the following link and scroll down - you can find a live bootleg recording of it there.
[url=http://www.praesenta.de/fos]Link[/url][/quote]

Sadly the above link seems to no longer exist.
  • Quote dsweeney

Re: The Ballinalee

Post by dsweeney Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:58 pm

You're right of course, Phil, the box -set is most certainly not " in the grave", with or without O'leary, I stand corrected. But how many Pogues obsessives like me are out there who shelled out for it ? Know what I mean ? I simply meant it deserved a wider audience, that's all. At least you ressurected it from the vaults, for which, many thanks.
I bought a really dreadful bootleg cassette on O'connell bridge around '86 or more likely some time in '87, come to think of it, of a Pogues concert from somewhere or other. The crowd was nearly louder than the band over the guy's walkman or whatever he recorded it with. Anyway, it would have been in the run up to the release of " ...Grace.." and had things like " Lullaby...", " Turkish song..." and " The broad majestic...". The track I loved though was " The Ballinalee " and was absolutely gutted when it didn't make the cut for the album when it finally came out in early " 88. Still, it's great to at least have it in some incarnation and has pride of place on a 30 track " best of the box-set " I got somebody to burn me.
Incidentally Phil, I played the " Pogue Mahone " tracks on the box -set. The take of " Living in a world without her " is simply brilliant, with the violins. I'd have to narrowly plump for the album version with the accordian and uilleann pipes to the fore though. The demo of " Four o'clock in the morning " is better alright, I think, Jem's banjo more to the fore in the mix. " The sun and the moon " is a bit too basic for me, I love the pipes and whistle break on the album version. " Who said romance is dead " is great and should have gone on there.
You're right of course, Phil, the box -set is most certainly not " in the grave", with or without O'leary, I stand corrected. But how many Pogues obsessives like me are out there who shelled out for it ? Know what I mean ? I simply meant it deserved a wider audience, that's all. At least you ressurected it from the vaults, for which, many thanks.
I bought a really dreadful bootleg cassette on O'connell bridge around '86 or more likely some time in '87, come to think of it, of a Pogues concert from somewhere or other. The crowd was nearly louder than the band over the guy's walkman or whatever he recorded it with. Anyway, it would have been in the run up to the release of " ...Grace.." and had things like " Lullaby...", " Turkish song..." and " The broad majestic...". The track I loved though was " The Ballinalee " and was absolutely gutted when it didn't make the cut for the album when it finally came out in early " 88. Still, it's great to at least have it in some incarnation and has pride of place on a 30 track " best of the box-set " I got somebody to burn me.
Incidentally Phil, I played the " Pogue Mahone " tracks on the box -set. The take of " Living in a world without her " is simply brilliant, with the violins. I'd have to narrowly plump for the album version with the accordian and uilleann pipes to the fore though. The demo of " Four o'clock in the morning " is better alright, I think, Jem's banjo more to the fore in the mix. " The sun and the moon " is a bit too basic for me, I love the pipes and whistle break on the album version. " Who said romance is dead " is great and should have gone on there.
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: The Ballinalee

Post by philipchevron Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:02 pm

dsweeney wrote:I think " The Balinalee " should definitely have been included on IISFFGWG, even at the expense of " Metropolis ". Personally, I thought there was enough experimenting already included, especially on side one, as was. The biggest tragedy though for me was that the divine " Shanne Bradley " missed out on an album placing and was relegated to the b- side of " Fairytale..." and oblivion. Hindsight has 20/20 vision of course but I think these two tracks are much more of what the Pogues were about and the timeless music Shane spoke of. They are so much more outside the mainstream of pop/ rock that they stand up better for it. At least " Shanne..." is on the remastered " Grace..." but the rollicking " Ballinalee " is with O'leary in the grave. A real shame.
A requiem for a song.


Um, well. I'm not sure if "The Ballinalee"'s inclusion on Just Look Them Straight In The Eye..... counts as being "in the grave", with or without O'Leary, but the plain fact is, though we recorded it on at least two separate occasions (at RAK and at Abbey Road), "The Ballinalee" never quite satisfied us enough to make it to the final cut of a Pogues album.
[quote="dsweeney"]I think " The Balinalee " should definitely have been included on IISFFGWG, even at the expense of " Metropolis ". Personally, I thought there was enough experimenting already included, especially on side one, as was. The biggest tragedy though for me was that the divine " Shanne Bradley " missed out on an album placing and was relegated to the b- side of " Fairytale..." and oblivion. Hindsight has 20/20 vision of course but I think these two tracks are much more of what the Pogues were about and the timeless music Shane spoke of. They are so much more outside the mainstream of pop/ rock that they stand up better for it. At least " Shanne..." is on the remastered " Grace..." but the rollicking " Ballinalee " is with O'leary in the grave. A real shame.
A requiem for a song.[/quote]

Um, well. I'm not sure if "The Ballinalee"'s inclusion on [i]Just Look Them Straight In The Eye.....[/i] counts as being "in the grave", with or without O'Leary, but the plain fact is, though we recorded it on at least two separate occasions (at RAK and at Abbey Road), "The Ballinalee" never quite satisfied us enough to make it to the final cut of a Pogues album.
  • Quote dsweeney

Re: The Ballinalee

Post by dsweeney Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:52 am

I think " The Balinalee " should definitely have been included on IISFFGWG, even at the expense of " Metropolis ". Personally, I thought there was enough experimenting already included, especially on side one, as was. The biggest tragedy though for me was that the divine " Shanne Bradley " missed out on an album placing and was relegated to the b- side of " Fairytale..." and oblivion. Hindsight has 20/20 vision of course but I think these two tracks are much more of what the Pogues were about and the timeless music Shane spoke of. They are so much more outside the mainstream of pop/ rock that they stand up better for it. At least " Shanne..." is on the remastered " Grace..." but the rollicking " Ballinalee " is with O'leary in the grave. A real shame.
A requiem for a song.
I think " The Balinalee " should definitely have been included on IISFFGWG, even at the expense of " Metropolis ". Personally, I thought there was enough experimenting already included, especially on side one, as was. The biggest tragedy though for me was that the divine " Shanne Bradley " missed out on an album placing and was relegated to the b- side of " Fairytale..." and oblivion. Hindsight has 20/20 vision of course but I think these two tracks are much more of what the Pogues were about and the timeless music Shane spoke of. They are so much more outside the mainstream of pop/ rock that they stand up better for it. At least " Shanne..." is on the remastered " Grace..." but the rollicking " Ballinalee " is with O'leary in the grave. A real shame.
A requiem for a song.
  • Quote MissWalshy

Post by MissWalshy Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:35 pm

ah but yes! that was the month of my big party so I wasn't reading EVERY page like normal.. :roll:

hehe!

Better late than never though.

Been listening to tracks all night.

AND IM LATE!

Have a great weekend guys 8)
ah but yes! that was the month of my big party so I wasn't reading EVERY page like normal.. :roll:

hehe!

Better late than never though.

Been listening to tracks all night.

AND IM LATE!

Have a great weekend guys 8)
  • Quote RoddyRuddy

Post by RoddyRuddy Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:09 pm

MissWalshy wrote:Zuzana! I should kill you for not telling me about this site before!!!!!

:evil:

Thanks though :)



viewtopic.php?p=78691&highlight=ballinalee#78691

Um...
[quote="MissWalshy"]Zuzana! I should kill you for not telling me about this site before!!!!!

:evil:

Thanks though :)[/quote]


viewtopic.php?p=78691&highlight=ballinalee#78691

Um...
  • Quote MissWalshy

Post by MissWalshy Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:19 pm

Zuzana! I should kill you for not telling me about this site before!!!!!

:evil:

Thanks though :)
Zuzana! I should kill you for not telling me about this site before!!!!!

:evil:

Thanks though :)
  • Quote ohAonghusa

Post by ohAonghusa Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:15 pm

Oooh. What a tasty website. Had to restrain myself.
Oooh. What a tasty website. Had to restrain myself.
  • Quote Zuzana

Post by Zuzana Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:52 pm

Thanks should go to the person who created the site. :) I just found it by chance. I know it is a bit delicate situation with bootlegs being made accessible without the band's permission, but sometimes it is the only chance to hear tracks that have never been officially released. Hopefully The Ballinalee will make it to the box set!
Thanks should go to the person who created the site. :) I just found it by chance. I know it is a bit delicate situation with bootlegs being made accessible without the band's permission, but sometimes it is the only chance to hear tracks that have never been officially released. Hopefully The Ballinalee will make it to the box set!
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:48 pm

pogues24 wrote:Thanks you immensely for that website. I just listen to this instrumental and it was fucking brilliant. Why did the Pogues never officially record this track, it would have made a great selection on If I Should Fall From Grace With God. Also I listened to some of the Falconer Demos, brilliant as well, including The Pogues live in Brixton in 1991, with the Chieftains. Thank-you again for this web site.

Slainte,
Iain


We DID record The Ballinalee, at Abbey Road in December 1986. It was part of the "Terry Woods Solo Album". See Carol Clerk's book for further enlightenment.
[quote="pogues24"]Thanks you immensely for that website. I just listen to this instrumental and it was fucking brilliant. Why did the Pogues never officially record this track, it would have made a great selection on If I Should Fall From Grace With God. Also I listened to some of the Falconer Demos, brilliant as well, including The Pogues live in Brixton in 1991, with the Chieftains. Thank-you again for this web site.

Slainte,
Iain[/quote]

We DID record The Ballinalee, at Abbey Road in December 1986. It was part of the "Terry Woods Solo Album". See Carol Clerk's book for further enlightenment.
  • Quote pogues24

Post by pogues24 Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:44 pm

Thanks you immensely for that website. I just listen to this instrumental and it was fucking brilliant. Why did the Pogues never officially record this track, it would have made a great selection on If I Should Fall From Grace With God. Also I listened to some of the Falconer Demos, brilliant as well, including The Pogues live in Brixton in 1991, with the Chieftains. Thank-you again for this web site.

Slainte,
Iain
Thanks you immensely for that website. I just listen to this instrumental and it was fucking brilliant. Why did the Pogues never officially record this track, it would have made a great selection on If I Should Fall From Grace With God. Also I listened to some of the Falconer Demos, brilliant as well, including The Pogues live in Brixton in 1991, with the Chieftains. Thank-you again for this web site.

Slainte,
Iain
  • Quote Zuzana

Post by Zuzana Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:29 pm

A year has passed, and The Ballinalee still haunts you? ;)

If you are still interested in hearing the instrumental, open the following link and scroll down - you can find a live bootleg recording of it there.
Link
A year has passed, and The Ballinalee still haunts you? ;)

If you are still interested in hearing the instrumental, open the following link and scroll down - you can find a live bootleg recording of it there.
[url=http://www.praesenta.de/fos]Link[/url]
  • Quote pogues24

The Ballinalee

Post by pogues24 Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:10 pm

What exactly is this song. Was this song ever recorded as a demo or for an official release. Also, is this song an instrumental, I read somewhere; now don't quote me on this that this song was a precursor to Turkish Song of the Damned.

Iain
What exactly is this song. Was this song ever recorded as a demo or for an official release. Also, is this song an instrumental, I read somewhere; now don't quote me on this that this song was a precursor to Turkish Song of the Damned.

Iain

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