fluke wrote:

TheKing wrote:Has anyone figured out the chords for nw3? Ta!

I checked this version briefly for you and I think it's quite right: http://www.azchords.com/p/pogues-tabs-5469/mothermochro-tabs-113011.html
Have fun playing it!

I know this post is kinda old but those chords can't possibly be right. The song is in A, not in G. And some chords are missing. This is more like it:

A F#m
It was 1962
A E7
I was two years out of school
A F#m
When I got on board
D E7
A boat that was bound for Liverpool
A F#m
The day I went away
A E7
I remember it so well
A F#m
Said goodbye to the North Wall
E7 A
And bid a fond farewell


I put the chords above the text a little bit randomly, just listen to the song to know when to play them. I play this on the mandolin (with the intro and all), but it should be the same on the guitar.

The chords used on the net are from Mother Mo Chroi. Maybe it's played in G? I don't know but it's possible. You can easily convert the song to be played in G anyway if you wish, but to play along the recording it must be played in A.

Edit: and the forum even fucked up the way I wrote the chords. But these are right, just listen to the song and you'll know when to play which.

Mr Bialetti wrote:Just found this thread while reistening compulsively to NW3 (and the rest of the box set as well, truly) after some time.
See, I thought I'd check out the exact lyrics and found the Medusa Fora, which I should really really get to investigate at depth. Those are great conversations you have here.

A few of us made an attempt at the NW3 lyrics a while ago, the results of which are here: http://pogues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 40#p142941

And welcome aboard.

Hello everyone,

Just found this thread while reistening compulsively to NW3 (and the rest of the box set as well, truly) after some time.
See, I thought I'd check out the exact lyrics and found the Medusa Fora, which I should really really get to investigate at depth. Those are great conversations you have here.

Anyway, just wanted to mention the fact (maybe already pointed at somewhere else) that there's a verse in the song (At the top of Pentonville Road / I watched the sun setting) that seems to be a nod to a painting by anglo-irish painter John O'Connor (1830-1889), From Pentonville Road Looking West: Evening.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... nville.jpg

Wether it was a conscious effor on Shane's behalf or a coincidence (which would make it even better, imho) I guess it adds even more nuances and layers of meaning to an already gorgeous song.

I think it would be great if NW3 was played on the next tour

MacRua wrote:

Guest wrote:

Guest wrote:NW3 is the code for a postal district in London. NW presumably indicates that it is in the northwestern part but I don't know exactly where it is.

think its round the kilburn area

Kilburn is NW6
As for NW3 - it's Hampstead.

Strictly speaking, Macrua is correct, though parts of Kilburn and West Hampstead do overlap to some extent and it was Shane's intention to allude to the old working class neighbourhood as a whole rather than the fashionable yuppie suburb of Hampstead. It's a bit like writing about the historic if slightly grizzly Grand Canal/Mount Street Bridge area of Dublin and calling it "Dublin 4". Not incorrect exactly, but misleading.

Liamo wrote:Is there not a 4th verse of NW3 that goes something like this?

Between love and hate
I'm Going home again
Never did nobody wrong
Never earned a decent wage
So thanks for sweet f**k all
Wish me good luck at the north wall
Say goodbye to all the dead
and bid a fond farewell

Its on all the NW3 versions i've heard. Cheers.

Peep here

Is there not a 4th verse of NW3 that goes something like this?

Between love and hate
I'm Going home again
Never did nobody wrong
Never earned a decent wage
So thanks for sweet f**k all
Wish me good luck at the north wall
Say goodbye to all the dead
and bid a fond farewell

Its on all the NW3 versions i've heard. Cheers.

Guest wrote:

Guest wrote:NW3 is the code for a postal district in London. NW presumably indicates that it is in the northwestern part but I don't know exactly where it is.

think its round the kilburn area

Kilburn is NW6
As for NW3 - it's Hampstead.

Guest wrote:NW3 is the code for a postal district in London. NW presumably indicates that it is in the northwestern part but I don't know exactly where it is.

think its round the kilburn area

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:

pogues24 wrote:

Great lyrics, far from the banality of Mother Mó Chrói.

Too bad it was never recorded properly.

The sheer banality of Mother Mo' Chroi, what a overly ridiculous statement to make. Mother Mo Chroi was a quite a standout track on Crock of Gold, and one of Shane's many shining moments with The Popes.'

Iain

Agreed, but I, too, prefer the lyrics to NW 3. There´s a kind of "brutal honesty" to them which I really like.

i agree. i just listened to this song again & read along with the lyrics & have a new appreciation for this over mother mo chroi

bfg wrote:NW3 was recorded, although with altered lyrics as Mother Mo Chroi (think I spelled that right) on Crock of Gold. The version on the Falconer Demos is much better though. I thought the best song Shane did with the Popes was Aisling but overall the pogues material is much better. Actually, maybe not better, just differnt, more traditional. Popes are a little more rock and Shane's vocal obviously were not as strong.

Take your Shane coloured shades off. To even attempt to compare the popes to the Pogues is akin to choosing between julian and John!

Like a lot of other posters have already said, I just want to reiterate that the version of "NW3" included in the box set is amazing. I've always especially loved the song; it seems to have a sort of teeming dynamism to it, like it is constantly on the verge of eruption but is so delicately restrained and focused. Plus, it strikes me as a dreary, wintery, London song--which, of course, it is--and those ones are always my favorites.

Anyway, has anyone else noticed the different drum patterns used by Andrew Rankin on this song on the Falconer demos as opposed to the version included in the box set, or any of the numerous live bootlegs of it? On the box set version, the sound is a rolling beat with a lot of work on the toms. (I'm not a drummer, so please excuse my technical ignorance.) But on the Falconer demos, the beat is straight and the snare seems to hit at twice the previous rate. Also on the Falconer demos version, the drums seem to play a larger role in the building intensity of the verses from the first four bars through to the third set each time around--you know, moving from clicks on the rim of the snare to straight hits on the head.

I don't have any critical comments to offer on this incidence, but I just think it's an interesting difference to bring to light. Production issues aside, I think the version of "NW3" in the box set works better with the rolling pattern, but as a person who listens typically to punk and its various offshoots, I continually want to hear the straight, faster beat of the Falconer demos version, especially on this song.

I am a nerd.

TheKing wrote:Has anyone figured out the chords for nw3? Ta!

I checked this version briefly for you and I think it's quite right: http://www.azchords.com/p/pogues-tabs-5469/mothermochro-tabs-113011.html
Have fun playing it!

Cheers, i've got to say it sounds very much like one of Shanes earlier songs

Mark_Wafc wrote:NW3 is class, utter class.

When did Shane write it? For the Hells Ditch album or was it around earlier?

Sometime between Summer 1987 and October 1987. It just missed the Fall From Grace album (and. of course, every subsequent album)