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Album title: "...Sodomy" ???

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  • Quote dsweeney

Re: Album title: "...Sodomy" ???

Post by dsweeney Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:56 pm

I suppose it doesn't really matter now but it wasn't Churchill who said " don't ask me about the British navy, it's just rum, sodomy and the lash ". It was his private secretary who said it and it was mistakenly accredited to Churchill.
I suppose it doesn't really matter now but it wasn't Churchill who said " don't ask me about the British navy, it's just rum, sodomy and the lash ". It was his private secretary who said it and it was mistakenly accredited to Churchill.
  • Quote Low D

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Post by Low D Mon May 26, 2008 1:56 am

philipchevron wrote:the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.


But i guess they made it to shore, too bad for the music world!
[quote="philipchevron"]the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.
[/quote]

But i guess they made it to shore, too bad for the music world!
  • Quote philipchevron

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Post by philipchevron Fri May 23, 2008 1:02 pm

Billie wrote:
philipchevron wrote:We had a launch party on board HMS Belfast, moored on the Thames, at which we were piped aboard, from a feeder boat, in the full naval regalia we wear on the cover, and played a short set for the assembled liggers. This took such organisation that by the time we played, all the Rum (the only drink on board, if I recall) had been quaffed by the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.


I wonder if any episode of sodomy was involved too, at the party (maybe with some lash). But I think it's better not to know, then. 8)



Who knows? For an innocent boy from Dublin, it was a timely lesson in the reality of the Music Press - they are a bunch of drunks and have remained so ever since, poor guys.
[quote="Billie"][quote="philipchevron"]
We had a launch party on board HMS Belfast, moored on the Thames, at which we were piped aboard, from a feeder boat, in the full naval regalia we wear on the cover, and played a short set for the assembled liggers. This took such organisation that by the time we played, all the Rum (the only drink on board, if I recall) had been quaffed by the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.
[/quote]

I wonder if any episode of sodomy was involved too, at the party (maybe with some lash). But I think it's better not to know, then. 8)[/quote]


Who knows? For an innocent boy from Dublin, it was a timely lesson in the reality of the Music Press - they are a bunch of drunks and have remained so ever since, poor guys.
  • Quote Billie

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Post by Billie Fri May 23, 2008 12:55 pm

philipchevron wrote:We had a launch party on board HMS Belfast, moored on the Thames, at which we were piped aboard, from a feeder boat, in the full naval regalia we wear on the cover, and played a short set for the assembled liggers. This took such organisation that by the time we played, all the Rum (the only drink on board, if I recall) had been quaffed by the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.


I wonder if any episode of sodomy was involved too, at the party (maybe with some lash). But I think it's better not to know, then. 8)
[quote="philipchevron"]
We had a launch party on board HMS Belfast, moored on the Thames, at which we were piped aboard, from a feeder boat, in the full naval regalia we wear on the cover, and played a short set for the assembled liggers. This took such organisation that by the time we played, all the Rum (the only drink on board, if I recall) had been quaffed by the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.
[/quote]

I wonder if any episode of sodomy was involved too, at the party (maybe with some lash). But I think it's better not to know, then. 8)
  • Quote firehazard

Re: Album title: "...Sodomy" ???

Post by firehazard Fri May 23, 2008 6:55 am

Sportin' Life wrote:Are people aware that the word sodomy offends the delicate sensibilities of the good Apple folks over on itunes? Yup they list it as Rum, S*d*my and the Lash, the bleeding c*nts.


A few years ago I edited a book which was, in part, about the Sex Pistols. Every time the name of their album came up, it was called Never Mind The Bullocks. The author had apparently had trouble with a censorious spellchecker. I had a lovely time gleefully changing the spellings back...
[quote="Sportin' Life"]Are people aware that the word sodomy offends the delicate sensibilities of the good Apple folks over on itunes? Yup they list it as [i]Rum, S*d*my and the Lash[/i], the bleeding c*nts.[/quote]

A few years ago I edited a book which was, in part, about the Sex Pistols. Every time the name of their album came up, it was called [i]Never Mind The Bullocks[/i]. The author had apparently had trouble with a censorious spellchecker. I had a lovely time gleefully changing the spellings back...
  • Quote IrishRover

Re: Album title: "...Sodomy" ???

Post by IrishRover Thu May 22, 2008 8:21 pm

censoirshoippers they are then.. freedoim foir album nameos!
censoirshoippers they are then.. freedoim foir album nameos!
  • Quote Sportin' Life

Re: Album title: "...Sodomy" ???

Post by Sportin' Life Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:26 am

Regarding sodomy....

Are people aware that the word sodomy offends the delicate sensibilities of the good Apple folks over on itunes? Yup they list it as Rum, S*d*my and the Lash, the bleeding c*nts.
Regarding sodomy....

Are people aware that the word sodomy offends the delicate sensibilities of the good Apple folks over on itunes? Yup they list it as [i]Rum, S*d*my and the Lash[/i], the bleeding c*nts.
  • Quote IrishRover

Re: Rum, Soidoimy & The Lash (Backroiund Foir Album Name)

Post by IrishRover Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:06 pm

:D thanks Philip
:D thanks Philip
  • Quote philipchevron

Re: Rum, Soidoimy & The Lash (Backroiund Foir Album Name)

Post by philipchevron Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:42 pm

IrishRover wrote:agh, but noiw oi do :D
oi have to learn everythoing the hard way :wink:


Well, not all us Pogues knew it either in 1985 when Andrew Ranken brought it to our attention. :wink:
[quote="IrishRover"]agh, but noiw oi do :D
oi have to learn everythoing the hard way :wink:[/quote]

Well, not all us Pogues knew it either in 1985 when Andrew Ranken brought it to our attention. :wink:
  • Quote IrishRover

Re: Rum, Soidoimy & The Lash (Backroiund Foir Album Name)

Post by IrishRover Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:54 pm

agh, but noiw oi do :D
oi have to learn everythoing the hard way :wink:
agh, but noiw oi do :D
oi have to learn everythoing the hard way :wink:
  • Quote Mick Molloy

Re: Rum, Soidoimy & The Lash (Backroiund Foir Album Name)

Post by Mick Molloy Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:34 pm

I'm amazed you didn't know this Oirish :wink:
I'm amazed you didn't know this Oirish :wink:
  • Quote IrishRover

Rum, Soidoimy & The Lash (Backroiund Foir Album Name)

Post by IrishRover Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:16 pm

just oine question that moight be ointerestoing.. doin't knoiw oif smn asked thois befoire, so here oit goies..

oi was recently watchoin' soime doicumentary aboiut Woinston Churchoill.. amoing oither thoings, they saoid at oine point that he had very bad oipoinion of Broitoish navy, proibably befoire the wwII, that he descroibed oit exactly usoin' the expression "rum, soidoimy & the lash"; ois thois sth that actually oinfluenced and broiught oiut the name foir Pogues' 2nd album?
just oine question that moight be ointerestoing.. doin't knoiw oif smn asked thois befoire, so here oit goies..

oi was recently watchoin' soime doicumentary aboiut Woinston Churchoill.. amoing oither thoings, they saoid at oine point that he had very bad oipoinion of Broitoish navy, proibably befoire the wwII, that he descroibed oit exactly usoin' the expression "rum, soidoimy & the lash"; ois thois sth that actually oinfluenced and broiught oiut the name foir Pogues' 2nd album?
  • Quote Mick Molloy

Post by Mick Molloy Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:48 pm

We wouldn't expect anything else :wink:
We wouldn't expect anything else :wink:
  • Quote pogues whistle player

Post by pogues whistle player Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:58 pm

Speak for yourself, Phil. I was speeding out of my nut and full of rum.
Speak for yourself, Phil. I was speeding out of my nut and full of rum.
  • Quote philipchevron

Post by philipchevron Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:43 am

The title was suggested by Andrew Ranken and was, yes, Churchill's quote about the British Navy. All the other subsidiary meanings you have mentioned appealed to us as well. An additional one is "the Lash" as in "spirited effort" - a later well known Irish World Cup song exhorted Mr Jack Charlton to "Give it a lash, Jack" for instance.

We had a launch party on board HMS Belfast, moored on the Thames, at which we were piped aboard, from a feeder boat, in the full naval regalia we wear on the cover, and played a short set for the assembled liggers. This took such organisation that by the time we played, all the Rum (the only drink on board, if I recall) had been quaffed by the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.

We stayed sober.
The title was suggested by Andrew Ranken and was, yes, Churchill's quote about the British Navy. All the other subsidiary meanings you have mentioned appealed to us as well. An additional one is "the Lash" as in "spirited effort" - a later well known Irish World Cup song exhorted Mr Jack Charlton to "Give it a lash, Jack" for instance.

We had a launch party on board HMS Belfast, moored on the Thames, at which we were piped aboard, from a feeder boat, in the full naval regalia we wear on the cover, and played a short set for the assembled liggers. This took such organisation that by the time we played, all the Rum (the only drink on board, if I recall) had been quaffed by the Melody Maker and NME journalists who then went on to throw each other overboard.

We stayed sober.

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