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Post by nboldock Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:19 pm

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:...calling his prospective father-in-law a "cunt".


I was thinking of doing that very thing just the other day... but I didn't.

Post by Beisty Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:29 pm

dawson wrote:I think Shane wanted it to sound like the pogues first 3 albums but in the end it sounds like Oirish Roiver and The Crew!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I know exactly what you mean.

Post by MacRua Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:07 pm

It's a compliment. It MUST be... am not sure to whom though.

Post by dawson Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:59 pm

I think Shane wanted it to sound like the pogues first 3 albums but in the end it sounds like Oirish Roiver and The Crew!

Post by John C Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:47 pm

idlebagger wrote:I haven't heard the original version, but, somehow, I doubt it ends with Mr Rafferty calling his prospective father-in-law a "cunt".


Right you are. Shane changed the words to suit himself.

Post by idlebagger Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:33 pm

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:In the booklet to Shane´s "The snake" it says "written by Gerry Rafferty". It´s hard to imagine that someone who wrote "Baker Street" also wrote "Her father didn´t like me anyway", though.


I haven't heard the original version, but, somehow, I doubt it ends with Mr Rafferty calling his prospective father-in-law a "cunt".

Post by The Duke of Ingmar Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:21 am

Heather wrote:
The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
Heather wrote:
Her Father didn't Like Me Anyway wasn't actually written by Shane, I have a tape dating back to 1987 by a Liverpool folk band called Ages Apart and it says it was written by a G Rafferty.


Yes, Mr Gerry Rafferty ("Baker Street", "Stuck in the middle with you") wrote this song very early in his career, when he played in a trio named "The Humblebums".



I didn't actually think it would have been him, although the thought had crossed my mind.

There must be thousands of G Rafferty's in the world.


In the booklet to Shane´s "The snake" it says "written by Gerry Rafferty". It´s hard to imagine that someone who wrote "Baker Street" also wrote "Her father didn´t like me anyway", though.

Post by Heather Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:59 pm

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
Heather wrote:
Her Father didn't Like Me Anyway wasn't actually written by Shane, I have a tape dating back to 1987 by a Liverpool folk band called Ages Apart and it says it was written by a G Rafferty.


Yes, Mr Gerry Rafferty ("Baker Street", "Stuck in the middle with you") wrote this song very early in his career, when he played in a trio named "The Humblebums".



I didn't actually think it would have been him, although the thought had crossed my mind.

There must be thousands of G Rafferty's in the world.

Post by James Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:39 pm

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
Heather wrote:
Her Father didn't Like Me Anyway wasn't actually written by Shane, I have a tape dating back to 1987 by a Liverpool folk band called Ages Apart and it says it was written by a G Rafferty.


Yes, Mr Gerry Rafferty ("Baker Street", "Stuck in the middle with you") wrote this song very early in his career, when he played in a trio named "The Humblebums".


Billy Connolly was in the Humblebums before he gave up folk music for stand up comedy. I maintain that Billy's is the definitive version of Cripple Creek. Some shit-hot banjo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHaLItu2Hf0

Also, somehow I'd got the idea that Stuck In the Middle With You was written by Leiber-Stoller of Jailhouse Rock and many, many other great songs fame. I'm wrong, but it was a nice delusion.

Post by The Duke of Ingmar Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:52 am

Heather wrote:
Her Father didn't Like Me Anyway wasn't actually written by Shane, I have a tape dating back to 1987 by a Liverpool folk band called Ages Apart and it says it was written by a G Rafferty.


Yes, Mr Gerry Rafferty ("Baker Street", "Stuck in the middle with you") wrote this song very early in his career, when he played in a trio named "The Humblebums".

Mr Rafferty then recorded the song himself again of his solo cd "Over my head" which was released in 1995.

And although I´ve never heard the original version (or any other, by the way) to date, I´m pretty sure that Shane has recorded the definite version of this song.

Post by Eckhard Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:53 pm

mats wrote:Shane also wrote Aisling and Donegal Express while he was still in The Pogues. There are demos and they will hopefully end up in the Treasue Chest Box later this year.


It seems that Shane's best songs from the Popes-era were those written while still in the Pogues: Donegal Express, Aisling, NW3 and so on.

Post by mats Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:43 pm

pogues24 wrote:Shane had already began to write Mexican Funeral In Paris and Victoria while he was still in the Pogues. These songs can be found on the infamous Falconer Demos (Mexcican Funeral In Paris early title was Lust For Vomit.) How songs like Her Father Didn't Like Me Anyway, Aisling, The Snake With Eyes of Garnet, and many others on the Snake still remind me of the days when he was in the Pogues.

Iain


Shane also wrote Aisling and Donegal Express while he was still in The Pogues. There are demos and they will hopefully end up in the Treasue Chest Box later this year.

Post by pogues24 Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:40 pm

I know Shane didn't write this one, I was just implying the amount of Irish-flavored songs on The Snake versus Waiting For Herb. But hey, thanks again for verification. :lol:

Iain

Post by Heather Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:52 pm

pogues24 wrote:Shane had already began to write Mexican Funeral In Paris and Victoria while he was still in the Pogues. These songs can be found on the infamous Falconer Demos (Mexcican Funeral In Paris early title was Lust For Vomit.) How songs like Her Father Didn't Like Me Anyway, Aisling, The Snake With Eyes of Garnet, and many others on the Snake still remind me of the days when he was in the Pogues.

Iain


Her Father didn't Like Me Anyway wasn't actually written by Shane, I have a tape dating back to 1987 by a Liverpool folk band called Ages Apart and it says it was written by a G Rafferty.

Post by pogues24 Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:48 pm

Shane had already began to write Mexican Funeral In Paris and Victoria while he was still in the Pogues. These songs can be found on the infamous Falconer Demos (Mexcican Funeral In Paris early title was Lust For Vomit.) How songs like Her Father Didn't Like Me Anyway, Aisling, The Snake With Eyes of Garnet, and many others on the Snake still remind me of the days when he was in the Pogues.

Iain

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